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How did the Early Church interpret Hebrews 6:4-6, Hebrews 10:26-31, 2 Peter 2:20-22, and other similar passages?
> [Hebrews 6:4-6 NASB] 4 **For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit**, 5 **and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come**, 6 **and then have fallen away**,...
> [Hebrews 6:4-6 NASB] 4 **For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit**, 5 **and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come**, 6 **and then have fallen away**, to restore them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame. > [Hebrews 10:26-31 NASB] 26 For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a terrifying expectation of judgment and the fury of a fire which will consume the adversaries. 28 Anyone who has ignored the Law of Moses is put to death without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 How much more severe punishment do you think he will deserve who has trampled underfoot the Son of God, **and has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has insulted the Spirit of grace**? 30 For we know Him who said, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay.” And again, “The Lord will judge His people.” 31 It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God. > [2 Peter 2:20-22 NASB] 20 For if, **after they have escaped the defilements of the world by the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and are overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first**. 21 **For it would be better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn away from the holy commandment handed on to them**. 22 It has happened to them according to the true proverb, “A dog returns to its own vomit,” and, “A sow, after washing, returns to wallowing in the mire.” And other similar passages: > [Galatians 5:1-5 NASB] It was for freedom that Christ set us free; therefore **keep standing firm and do not be subject again to a yoke of slavery**. 2 Look! I, Paul, tell you that if you have yourselves circumcised, Christ will be of no benefit to you. 3 And I testify again to every man who has himself circumcised, that he is obligated to keep the whole Law. 4 **You have been severed from Christ**, you who are seeking to be justified by the Law; **you have fallen from grace**. 5 For we, through the Spirit, by faith, are waiting for the hope of righteousness. > [Luke 8:13 NASB] Those on the rocky soil are the ones who, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and yet these do not have a firm root; **they believe for a while**, **and in a time of temptation they fall away**. > [Matthew 13:20-21 NASB] 20 The one sown with seed on the rocky places, this is the one who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy; 21 yet he has no firm root in himself, **but is only temporary**, and when affliction or persecution occurs because of the word, **immediately he falls away**. > [John 15:5-6 NASB] 5 I am the vine, you are the branches; the one who remains in Me, and I in him bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing. 6 **If anyone does not remain in Me, he is thrown away like a branch and dries up; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned**. > [Romans 11:18-22 NASB] 18 do not be arrogant toward the branches; but if you are arrogant, remember that it is not you who supports the root, but the root supports you. 19 You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” 20 Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but you stand by your faith. Do not be conceited, but fear; 21 for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not spare you, either. 22 See then the kindness and severity of God: **to those who fell, severity, but to you, God’s kindness, if you continue in His kindness**; **for otherwise you too will be cut off**. > [1 Corinthians 9:24-27] 24 Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but only one receives the prize? **Run in such a way that you may win**. 25 Everyone who competes in the games exercises self-control in all things. So they do it to obtain a perishable wreath, but we an imperishable. 26 Therefore I run in such a way as not to run aimlessly; I box in such a way, as to avoid hitting air; 27 **but I strictly discipline my body and make it my slave, so that, after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified**. > [Revelation 3:5 NASB] The **one who overcomes** will be clothed the same way, in white garments; and **I will not erase his name from the book of life**, and I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels. > [Revelations 22:19 NASB] and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, **God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city**, which are written in this book. How were passages typically quoted to refute OSAS interpreted by the early Church? You can find more passages here: * https://christianity.stackexchange.com/q/87015/117426 * https://christianity.stackexchange.com/q/12097/117426
user117426 (692 rep)
Aug 13, 2025, 10:50 AM • Last activity: Aug 22, 2025, 04:03 AM
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Why does God, according to his own words, "create evil"?
> I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and **create evil**: I the LORD do all these things. ([Isaiah 45:7](https://www.biblehub.com/kjv/isaiah/45.htm)) [emphasis mine] This is consistent with God being called "all-mighty" and "omnipotent". However, it seems to be grossly *incompatibl...
> I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and **create evil**: I the LORD do all these things. ([Isaiah 45:7](https://www.biblehub.com/kjv/isaiah/45.htm)) [emphasis mine] This is consistent with God being called "all-mighty" and "omnipotent". However, it seems to be grossly *incompatible* with God being called "good". If he truly is all these things, why would he create evil, which is the opposite of what is good, which He is claimed to be?
user62004 (49 rep)
May 13, 2023, 04:58 PM • Last activity: Aug 21, 2025, 12:07 PM
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Young Earth AND Big Bang?
To begin, I do believe in a young earth because that is how I interpret scripture, and I do not see any irrefutable evidence… yet… to dissuade me from my beliefs. When observation conflicts with our Biblical understanding, it is our Biblical understanding that is in error, such as was the case with...
To begin, I do believe in a young earth because that is how I interpret scripture, and I do not see any irrefutable evidence… yet… to dissuade me from my beliefs. When observation conflicts with our Biblical understanding, it is our Biblical understanding that is in error, such as was the case with the Catholic Church’s defense of a geocentric model against Copernicus’, and later Galilei’s, observational evidence of the heliocentric model. The reason that I believe in a young earth, yet a big bang, could most likely be based on an ignorant idea that I hold but do not have the ken (pun intended) to fully understand and my ideas will likely allude to my ignorance. This is why I am posing the question here as I cannot find any evidence to defend or disprove my theory and my understanding of cosmology is juvenile at best. I understand that immediately following the big bang, science believes that there was a rapid expansion period where matter expanded faster than the speed of light for a small fraction of a second. I vaguely understand that Einstein’s General Theory of Relativity breaks down at the event horizon of this expansion. My question is this… How do we know how long the period of rapid expansion was, and how do we know how much the universe expanded in that period? Is it possible that when God said “Let there be light” that He unleashed the big bang and the universe expanded to well beyond where the earth was created. Additionally, we know that time is relative to gravity. When the universe was denser, would time not have had the effect of being exponentially faster than on the fringes of the expansion where time would be relatively slower due to lower density of mass? Again, some of the points I have discussed likely allude to my ignorance. There are likely answers to these questions with solid science behind them. I realize that I might not have the background to understand some of these answers but if someone could attempt to explain this in as layman of term that they can, I would greatly appreciate it.
Ken Reedze (1 rep)
Aug 19, 2025, 10:17 AM • Last activity: Aug 20, 2025, 08:58 PM
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Who do mainline Protestants believe an "archangel" (such as Michael) to be?
Some sects including Jehovah's Witnesses [believe the archangel Michael to be one in the same with Christ][1]. The basic premise of this claim seems to stem from the unique usage of the role archangel rather than just any-ol-angel. > Michael is the only one said to be the 'archangel', meaning 'chief...
Some sects including Jehovah's Witnesses believe the archangel Michael to be one in the same with Christ . The basic premise of this claim seems to stem from the unique usage of the role archangel rather than just any-ol-angel. > Michael is the only one said to be the 'archangel', meaning 'chief angel' or 'principal angel'. I would like to know what a mainline Protestant understanding about the role of "archangel" is. What makes them different from a mainline* angel? Do they bear any special relation to Christ? How many might there be? Also, are there any ways in which Protestants view the type "archangel" differently than other major traditions? \* Sorry, couldn't resist.
Caleb (37646 rep)
Feb 26, 2013, 11:20 AM • Last activity: Aug 20, 2025, 05:04 PM
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How do proponents of the doctrine of Eternal Security explain the evidence of lifelong Christians renouncing their faith?
How do advocates of *Eternal Security* explain the phenomenon of life-long Christians leaving the faith? Here is a playlist of testimonies from former pastors: [YouTube Playlist](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLV9jojlG6VGunKZTBb8TmHfvg4ZPIjkXi) For example: - [Testimony of a former pastor af...
How do advocates of *Eternal Security* explain the phenomenon of life-long Christians leaving the faith? Here is a playlist of testimonies from former pastors: [YouTube Playlist](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLV9jojlG6VGunKZTBb8TmHfvg4ZPIjkXi) For example: - [Testimony of a former pastor after 30 years in ministry](https://youtu.be/e73jIl-bWuk) - [Testimony of a former pastor after 25 years in ministry](https://youtu.be/9Q3VXwcNxcA) - [Testimony of a former pastor after 20 years in ministry](https://youtu.be/2_A0ilgwg38) - [Dan Barker describes going from preacher to atheist and how nature designed the world, not God](https://youtu.be/YQMascSVBDg) Additionally, consider this [answer on Christianity StackExchange](https://christianity.stackexchange.com/a/108512/117426) , where an ex-Christian explains: > You generally can't get a good answer to this question from people who > haven't been through the process. > > I think the core reason for most of us is that we realized the > Christian narrative is simply mythology, and cannot possibly be true. > > And yes, I have PLENTY of good hard evidence to back that up. > > Bring hurt by people in the church? A secondary reason, but often just > an eye opener to start questioning the narrative. > > **Never a real Christian? Not a reason for most. Most of us who lose our** > **faith were among the very most dedicated Christians imaginable. Our** > **Christian experiences were just like yours if not more so. We led** > **worship, preached, served as missionaries, wept before Jesus, spoke in** > **tongues, gave our all, believed with our whole hearts, all of it.** > > Wanting to go sin? Not a reason for virtually anyone. > > We just loved the truth, and could no longer keep lying to ourselves > that the Christian narrative was the truth. Given testimonies like these, how do proponents of *Eternal Security* reconcile such evidence with their doctrine?
user117426 (692 rep)
Aug 20, 2025, 01:21 AM • Last activity: Aug 20, 2025, 03:08 PM
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What reasons do Mormons give for the usage of the name "Alma" for males?
### Background "Alma" is a name given to a [book in the Book of Mormon][1] and two male BoM characters ([father][2] and [son][3]), one of whom is the namesake of the book. "Alma" is also a Hebrew noun (עלמה) meaning "young woman", sometimes translated as "female virgin". In semitic languages, female...
### Background "Alma" is a name given to a book in the Book of Mormon and two male BoM characters (father and son ), one of whom is the namesake of the book. "Alma" is also a Hebrew noun (עלמה) meaning "young woman", sometimes translated as "female virgin". In semitic languages, female words have a gender indicator of a trailing "a/ah" . Like many semitic nouns "alma"/עלמה has a male gendered counterpart "elem"/עלם which means "young man". It derives from a common Semetic root referring to time, eternity, endurance, and youth. ### Question As a native Hebrew speaker, it is very odd to hear about a male named "Alma" since that word is morphologically female. What reasons do Latter Day Saint scholars of the Book of Mormon and semitic languages give for males being given an apparently female name? What is the Latter Day Saint belief about this name?
Avi Avraham (1803 rep)
Aug 19, 2025, 02:25 PM • Last activity: Aug 20, 2025, 11:30 AM
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Is there any Biblical Basis for God hard-determining human behaviour?
As an example of human behaviour: "and he ate" Genesis 3:6. ESV. A. Adam acted out of freewill. B. Adam's action was determined by God positively withholding from Adam the grace to obey Him and refrain from eating. God did this because He wanted to make the point that grace to obey would come throug...
As an example of human behaviour: "and he ate" Genesis 3:6. ESV. A. Adam acted out of freewill. B. Adam's action was determined by God positively withholding from Adam the grace to obey Him and refrain from eating. God did this because He wanted to make the point that grace to obey would come through the 2nd Adam, and therefore God withheld it from the 1st Adam. 1st and 2nd Adam are mentioned in 1 Corinthians 15:45-47. >"And from his fullness we have all received, grace upon grace." John 1:16 ESV
C. Stroud (411 rep)
May 21, 2022, 05:47 PM • Last activity: Aug 20, 2025, 09:24 AM
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Who do Trinitarians believe is Paul's God?
**Premise** 1Cor 8:6 KJV > But to us there is but one **God, the Father**, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. 1Tim 1:17 >Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, **the only God**, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen. Ro...
**Premise** 1Cor 8:6 KJV > But to us there is but one **God, the Father**, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. 1Tim 1:17 >Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, **the only God**, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen. Romans 15:6 NASB >so that with one accord you may with one voice glorify the **God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ**. Ephesians 4:6 KJV >One **God and Father** of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. 2 Timothy 1:3 >I thank **God**, whom I serve with a pure conscience, **as my forefathers did**, as without ceasing I remember you in my prayers night and day, **Question** ***Who do Trinitarians understand Paul's God to be?***
Read Less Pray More (149 rep)
Oct 19, 2022, 05:14 AM • Last activity: Aug 20, 2025, 06:14 AM
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Why did Jesus give Simon the "Rock" nickname as soon as he met him (without referring to Matthew 16)?
The most famous use of Peter/rock is **Matthew 16:18**: > And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock … But it was long before that, when Simon first met Jesus, that he was given the Peter/Cephas nickname in **John 1:42**: > … And when Jesus beheld him, he said, Thou art Simon...
The most famous use of Peter/rock is **Matthew 16:18**: > And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock … But it was long before that, when Simon first met Jesus, that he was given the Peter/Cephas nickname in **John 1:42**: > … And when Jesus beheld him, he said, Thou art Simon the son of Jona: thou shalt be called Cephas, which is by interpretation, A stone. Without referring to the later events in Matthew 16, are there any published scholarly or doctrinal explanations for why Jesus gave Simon that particular nickname as soon as he met him? ## Note: - I'm not interested in explanations based on Matthew 16. - I'm not asking what *you* think is the reason.
Ray Butterworth (13283 rep)
Aug 17, 2025, 01:04 PM • Last activity: Aug 20, 2025, 12:38 AM
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Which Bible Passages Support that God Knows All Future Events?
In "The Biblical Basis of the Doctrine of the Trinity - Introduction" by Robert M. Bowman Jr., he states that God knows all future events. He provides the following verses as support - Is. 42:9; 44:7. Unfortunately, while he provides verses suggesting that God can control the future, he provides no...
In "The Biblical Basis of the Doctrine of the Trinity - Introduction" by Robert M. Bowman Jr., he states that God knows all future events. He provides the following verses as support - Is. 42:9; 44:7. Unfortunately, while he provides verses suggesting that God can control the future, he provides no verse supporting that God knows any or all future events which God chooses not to control. Which Bible Passages Support that God Knows All Future Events? I understand that the answer may require showing that God is outside of time.
Hall Livingston (862 rep)
Aug 17, 2025, 04:20 AM • Last activity: Aug 19, 2025, 08:39 PM
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According to advocates of Eternal Security, how can one be assured that they truly belong to the saints who will persevere to the end?
> [Matthew 24:13 NASB] But the one who endures to the end is the one who will be saved. > [Revelation 14:12 NASB] Here is the perseverance of the saints who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus. > [2 Timothy 4:7-8 NASB] 7 I have fought the good fight, I have finished the course, I h...
> [Matthew 24:13 NASB] But the one who endures to the end is the one who will be saved. > [Revelation 14:12 NASB] Here is the perseverance of the saints who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus. > [2 Timothy 4:7-8 NASB] 7 I have fought the good fight, I have finished the course, I have kept the faith; 8 in the future there is reserved for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me on that day; and not only to me, but also to all who have loved His appearing. If perseverance is the mark of the true believer, how do those who hold to Eternal Security know with certainty that they are among this group? How can they be sure they are not deceiving themselves (or being deceived by the enemy), mistaking themselves for good soil when in reality they may be rocky ground that will eventually fall away? After all, no one is omniscient—only God knows the future. A person in their twenties or thirties cannot know with certainty whether they might later apostatize in their fifties, sixties, or seventies. Or can they?
user117426 (692 rep)
Aug 17, 2025, 02:01 PM • Last activity: Aug 19, 2025, 01:52 PM
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If God YHWH is “the Angel of the LORD” in the form of pre-incarnate Jesus in the OT, why does He not “rebuke” Satan Himself? (Zechariah 3:2)
Some Protestants and Catholics believe that the "Angel of the LORD" mentioned in several Old Testament narratives is not merely a created angel but a manifestation of God—specifically understood by many as the pre-incarnate Christ. This is often described using the theological term theophany (meanin...
Some Protestants and Catholics believe that the "Angel of the LORD" mentioned in several Old Testament narratives is not merely a created angel but a manifestation of God—specifically understood by many as the pre-incarnate Christ. This is often described using the theological term theophany (meaning an appearance of God), though the term itself does not appear in Scripture. For instance: > It seems when the definite article “the” is used, it is specifying a unique being, separate from the other angels. The angel of the Lord speaks as God, identifies Himself with God, and exercises the responsibilities of God (Genesis 16:7-12; 21:17-18; 22:11-18; Exodus 3:2; Judges 2:1-4; 5:23; 6:11-24; 13:3-22; 2 Samuel 24:16; Zechariah 1:12; 3:1; 12:8). In several of these appearances, those who saw the angel of the Lord feared for their lives because they had “seen the Lord.” Therefore, it is clear that in at least some instances, the angel of the Lord is a theophany, an appearance of God in physical form….whether the angel of the Lord was a pre-incarnate appearance of Christ (Christophany) or an appearance of God the Father (theophany), it is highly likely that the phrase “the angel of the Lord” usually identifies a physical appearance of God. (Protestant apologetics site GotQuestions.org ) A Catholic “Dictionary” describes the term “theophany” like this: > A direct communication or appearance by God to human beings. Instances: God confronting Adam and Eve after their disobedience (Genesis 3:8); God appearing to Moses out of a burning bush (Exodus 3:2-6); Abraham pleading with Yahweh to be merciful to Sodomites (Genesis 18:23). These theophanies were temporary manifestations. They were not like the Incarnation, which, though it began in time, will continue for all eternity. One such “theophany” in the form of “the angel of the Lord” is found in Zechariah: > Then he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the Angel of the LORD, and Satan standing at his right hand to oppose him. (Zechariah 3:1 - NKJV) Many Protestant and some Catholic scholars interpret this account as a theophany—an appearance of God in the Old Testament. In particular, some suggest that the figure identified as the Angel of the LORD may be a pre-incarnate manifestation of the second person of the Trinity, later revealed in the New Testament as Jesus Christ. This is formally referred to as Christology, which represents a more specific theological interpretation within the broader framework of theophany. > This angel was Christ, or the Logos, mentioned Zechariah 1:11, and called the Lord in the following verse (Benson Commentary) > standing before the Angel of the Lord; not any created angel, but Christ the Angel of God's presence, who is called Jehovah, Zechariah 3:2 is the rebuker of Satan, and the advocate of his people; (Gill’s Exposition of the Entire Bible) Interesting with this account is the following utterance by this “angel of the LORD” in Zechariah 3:2 > And the LORD [the Angel of the LORD speaking as the LORD] said to Satan, “The LORD rebuke you, Satan! The LORD who has chosen Jerusalem rebuke you! Is this not a brand plucked from the fire (Zechariah 3:2 NKJV) Why does GOD in the form of the second person of the Trinity, manifesting Himself as the Angel of the LORD not rebuke Satan, but asks YHWH (the LORD) to do so? The Archangel Michael in Jude 9 uses a phrase closely resembling Zechariah 3:2—“The Lord rebuke you”—when disputing with the devil. While not a word-for-word quote (wording differs slightly across Hebrew and Greek), the parallel strongly echoes the rebuke found in the Old Testament passage: > Yet Michael the archangel, in contending with the devil, when he disputed about the body of Moses, dared not bring against him a reviling accusation, but said, “The Lord rebuke you“ (Jude 9 NKJV) Could it be that the Angel of the LORD similarly “dared not bring against him (Satan) a reviling accusation” in Zechariah 3:2? If so, how could He be GOD? What other reason could there be NOT to rebuke Satan? One possible answer is found in 2 Peter 2:11 > whereas angels, who are greater in power and might [than humans], do not bring a reviling accusation against them before the Lord. This would suggest that the Angel of the Lord does have the same level of authority granted by GOD YHWH than many other Angels. It would mean that “the Angel of the LORD” is neither God nor the second person of the Trinity. How do those that hold to the position of “the Angel of the Lord” in Zechariah 3:1-2 being Christ pre-incarnate/God reconcile this? Why does the AOTL not rebuke Satan but asks YHWH/the LORD to do so?
Js Witness (2856 rep)
Aug 21, 2024, 07:09 PM • Last activity: Aug 19, 2025, 05:43 AM
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What is the scriptural support for the concept of having an "encounter with Jesus Christ"?
I was watching a well-known sermon by Paul Washer: ***[Shocking Youth Message (2002) | Paul Washer | HeartCry Missionary Society](https://youtu.be/HkPFv7v9CkY?t=1902)***. At minute 31:42, Paul Washer says: > Brother Paul, it’s absolutely absurd. It is impossible, Brother Paul, to have an **encounter...
I was watching a well-known sermon by Paul Washer: ***[Shocking Youth Message (2002) | Paul Washer | HeartCry Missionary Society](https://youtu.be/HkPFv7v9CkY?t=1902)*** . At minute 31:42, Paul Washer says: > Brother Paul, it’s absolutely absurd. It is impossible, Brother Paul, to have an **encounter** with something as large as a logging truck and not be changed. > > And then my question would be to you: **What is larger—a logging truck, or God?** > > How is it that so many people today profess to have had an **encounter with Jesus Christ**, and yet they are not permanently changed? So my questions are: - What does Paul Washer mean by an "encounter with God" or "encounter with Jesus Christ"? How is this different from a "false" encounter with no lasting impact? - What is the scriptural support for the idea of having such "encounters"?
user117426 (692 rep)
Aug 18, 2025, 08:26 PM • Last activity: Aug 19, 2025, 04:32 AM
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According to LDS teaching, Does God have a God?
[This question](https://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/38818/was-elohim-the-saviour-and-redeemer-of-his-world) discusses the LDS teaching that > “As man now is, God once was; as God is now man may be.” ( The Teachings of Lorenzo Snow, ed. Clyde J. Williams [1984], 1.) The teaching is parti...
[This question](https://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/38818/was-elohim-the-saviour-and-redeemer-of-his-world) discusses the LDS teaching that > “As man now is, God once was; as God is now man may be.” ( The Teachings of Lorenzo Snow, ed. Clyde J. Williams , 1.) The teaching is partially motivated by the passage from John5:19, > So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of his own accord, but only what he sees the Father doing. For whatever the Father does, that the Son does likewise. Joseph Smith himself said: >As the Father hath power in Himself, so hath the Son power in Himself, to lay down His life and take it again, so He has a body of His own. The Son doeth what He hath seen the Father do: then the Father hath some day laid down His life and taken it again > >-- History of the Church 5:426 > >I want you to pay particular attention to what I am saying. Jesus said that the Father wrought precisely in the same way as His Father had done before Him. As the Father had done before? He laid down His life, and took it up the same as His Father had done before. He did as He was sent, to lay down His life and take it up again; and then was committed unto Him the keys. I know it is good reasoning. > >-- History of the Church 6:373 From [LDS.org](https://www.lds.org/ensign/1982/02/i-have-a-question?lang=eng) : >The Prophet Joseph Smith himself publicly taught the doctrine the following year, 1844, during a funeral sermon of Elder King Follett: “God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens! … It is the first principle of the Gospel to know for a certainty the Character of God, and to know that we may converse with him as one man converses with another, and that he was once a man like us; yea, that God himself, the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ himself did.” As to this notion in the modern LDS church, President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles Joseph Fielding Smith said in an address in 1971: > “This is a doctrine which delighted President Snow, as it does all of us. Early in his ministry he received by direct, personal revelation the knowledge that (in the Prophet Joseph Smith’s language), ‘God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens,’ and that men ‘have got to learn how to be Gods … the same as all Gods have done before.’ So, in summary: - God the Father was once a man who became exalted to Godhood, and created us in _his_ own creation. - The man who is exalted now will be God of his own creation, as God is God of this one. - All Gods have endured this process. My question is: From a Mormon perspective, does God still worship the God he worshipped when he was a man on his own Earth?
Andrew (8235 rep)
Jul 12, 2015, 07:47 PM • Last activity: Aug 18, 2025, 09:58 PM
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Identification of the initials ‘B. K.’ in a theological book review in Wissenschaftliche Beilage der Leipziger Zeitung 1896?
Anyone out there who is able to identify the person behind the initials "B. K." in a theological book review in Wissenschaftliche Beilage der Leipziger Zeitung 1896? [![Facsimile of the book review][1]][1] [1]: https://i.sstatic.net/Tp6R4F7J.jpg
Anyone out there who is able to identify the person behind the initials "B. K." in a theological book review in Wissenschaftliche Beilage der Leipziger Zeitung 1896? Facsimile of the book review
Helge (121 rep)
Aug 18, 2025, 04:24 PM • Last activity: Aug 18, 2025, 08:44 PM
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How does the Catholic church deal with the differences between the God described in the old and new Testaments?
The God described in the Old Testament can be violent and vindictive and seems to hold to a different set of moral rules than the God we see in the New Testament. How does the Catholic church explain these differences? A few of the better known examples of the more violent nature of the Old Testamen...
The God described in the Old Testament can be violent and vindictive and seems to hold to a different set of moral rules than the God we see in the New Testament. How does the Catholic church explain these differences? A few of the better known examples of the more violent nature of the Old Testament's God are: 1. God asks Abraham to sacrifice his son (Genesis 22:2 ) > 2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of. This is then revealed to have been a "test" of Abraham's faith (Genesis 22:12 ) > 12 And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me. Since, by definition, the God of the Judeo-Christian faith is omniscient, this is not a test that could have provided Him with new information. It seems like a particularly horrible thing to do to a father. It is also at odds with the loving God of the later Christian faith. 2. The story of Lot (Genesis 19 ). Two angels have visited Lot's house and he treats them as honored guests. The men of Sodom ask him to let them "know" them: >5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them. Lot wants to protect his guests and so, instead, offers up his virgin daughters: > 8 Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof. This is treated as a perfectly natural offer. Any father who would offer up his daughters for rape today would be considered the lowest of degenerate criminals, yet Lot is portrayed as the only righteous man in Sodom and the only one, along with his family, who is spared by God. The story of Lot also has two other examples of the extreme violence that the Old Testament God was capable of. The very smiting of the, presumably, hundreds or even thousands of inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah, and the turning of Lot's wife into a pillar of salt for the rather innocuous sin of looking back at her home while it was being destroyed: > 24 Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven; > 25 And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground. > 26 But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt. > 24 Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven; > 25 And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground. > 28 And he looked toward Sodom and Gomorrah, and toward all the land of the plain, and beheld, and, lo, the smoke of the country went up as the smoke of a furnace. 3. As a final example, the scourges of the Pharaoh. Each and every one of them is an action that does not square with the forgiving, loving and fundamentally good nature of the Christian God, but the following is particularly cruel (Exodus: 11 ): > 5 And all the firstborn in the land of Egypt shall die, from the first born of Pharaoh that sitteth upon his throne, even unto the firstborn of the maidservant that is behind the mill; and all the firstborn of beasts. This is a kind and loving God who will kill innocent babies. What's more, His wrath is not restricted to the children of those, like the Pharaoh, who oppressed his people but extends to ay and all Egyptians and even goes so far as to include their animals. Clearly, a sheepherder living out in the middle of nowhere who has never seen any of the Jews living in Egypt cannot be blamed for their oppression under the Pharaoh. Yet, even this innocent shepherd is not spared God's wrath. Now, I imagine that all of these examples has been extensively debated and there will be various interpretations and apologetics for each. My question, however, is whether Catholics believe that the _nature_ of God has changed between the Old and New testaments. Jehova seems to be a very different God from the one described in the New Testament, how is that dealt with in the Catholic faith? PS. I have restricted the question to the Catholic church so it is not too broad bu welcome answers that also mention the positions of other denominations.
terdon (410 rep)
Jul 31, 2013, 05:53 PM • Last activity: Aug 18, 2025, 07:26 PM
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Where did Cdl. Cajetan write that a Dominican commits a mortal sin if he studies <4 hours a day?
Joret, O.P., [*Dominican Life*][1] p[p. 300][2]-1 claims: > The great theologian [\[Cdl. Tommaso de Vio Gaetani\] Cajetan][3], who became Master General of our [Dominican] Order, went so far as to assert that a Friar Preacher who did not study for four hours a day could scarcely be held to escape th...
Joret, O.P., *Dominican Life* pp. 300 -1 claims: > The great theologian [\[Cdl. Tommaso de Vio Gaetani\] Cajetan][3] , who became Master General of our [Dominican] Order, went so far as to assert that a Friar Preacher who did not study for four hours a day could scarcely be held to escape the guilt of mortal sin. Where did Cdl. Cajetan write this? Quétif & Échard, *Scriptores Ordinis Praedicatorum* (vol. 2) p. 16 : > *Unde fertur dicere solitum, sodalem Prædicatorum vix se a peccato mortali excusare, qui quoto die quatuor horas studio non impenderit.* > >Hence the usual, a member of the Preaching [order] barely excuses himself from mortal sin who each day does not spend four hours studying. But they do not say where he wrote this.
Geremia (42984 rep)
Aug 18, 2025, 05:04 AM
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Saint martyred by his father, the king?
What saint was martyred by his father, the king, for refusing to receive sacraments from an Arian heretic?
What saint was martyred by his father, the king, for refusing to receive sacraments from an Arian heretic?
Geremia (42984 rep)
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What did the people who set the Protestant canon of the Bible believe were the requirements for salvation?
In answering a [question][1] on Bible Hermeneutics.SE, Carly Perkins asked, "Why can [Protestants] believe the men who decided which books were in the canon (around 400 A.D.) but not believe what they lived and believed?" I realize that my question is somewhat different from Carly's. What did the pe...
In answering a question on Bible Hermeneutics.SE, Carly Perkins asked, "Why can [Protestants] believe the men who decided which books were in the canon (around 400 A.D.) but not believe what they lived and believed?" I realize that my question is somewhat different from Carly's. What did the people who set the Protestant canon of the Bible believe were the requirements for salvation?
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Given the centrality of salvation in Christianity, why do believers so deeply debate whether it can be lost?
I watched the debate between James White and Trent Horn on whether a Christian can lose their salvation: [DEBATE | Can a Christian Lose Their Salvation? | Trent Horn vs. Dr. James R. White](https://youtu.be/72TRODe8BdA). It's remarkable how well-educated scholars, studying the same biblical passages...
I watched the debate between James White and Trent Horn on whether a Christian can lose their salvation: [DEBATE | Can a Christian Lose Their Salvation? | Trent Horn vs. Dr. James R. White](https://youtu.be/72TRODe8BdA) . It's remarkable how well-educated scholars, studying the same biblical passages, can reach such diametrically opposed conclusions, particularly on a doctrine as pivotal as salvation. One would expect that salvation, being a cornerstone of Christian faith, would be communicated by God with utmost clarity to His church. Yet, we find ourselves debating the mechanics of salvation and the possibility of its loss. How do Christians reconcile the extensive debates surrounding salvation doctrines with the expectation that such a crucial tenet of the Christian faith would be revealed with unmistakable clarity by God?
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