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What are the oldest records of "gold teeth" miracles in Church History?
Claims of unexpected and spontaneous fillings or full restorations of teeth with gold are not unheard of in many faith healing services and other religious gatherings. For example, in a [video](https://youtu.be/j09HsDbjLPg?t=28) recorded at the [Demonstrate Conference](https://www.facebook.com/event...
Claims of unexpected and spontaneous fillings or full restorations of teeth with gold are not unheard of in many faith healing services and other religious gatherings. For example, in a [video](https://youtu.be/j09HsDbjLPg?t=28) recorded at the [Demonstrate Conference](https://www.facebook.com/events/living-faith-church/demonstrate-conference/390125865229060/) (an event hosted by [Jennifer Eivaz](https://www.jennifereivaz.com/)) , a woman testifies (*): > [...] I was, you know, asking God ... Holy Spirit to come ... and the miracle started happening ... **and then I got a gold tooth**! And it's so crazy, because you open your mouth, and everyone has their cameras looking at your mouth ... so I can't wait to brush my teeth and look at my gold tooth. Similarly, in [this thread](https://www.christianforums.com/threads/its-a-miracle-i-got-a-gold-tooth.3262453/) a woman shares (*): > [...] I attended a healing/revival meeting tonight, put on by Jeff Jansen, of Global Fire Ministries, and **the Lord gave many people gold teeth**!!! I had been praying and fasting all week for the Lord to show Himself big and make Himself soooo real to me !!! And guess what? **I got one, too**!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [...] > **Many people got gold teeth tonight** and NO ONE can tell me that it wasn't real because I saw it with my own eyes....one lady first noticed that **God turned 3 of hers gold on the top and I looked and saw them**. A few minutes later, **two of hers on the bottom had turned and I saw them**. **A few minutes later, 8 had turned gold and I saw them all--before and after**!!!! (*) Emphasis mine. In fact, the phenomenon seems to be relatively widespread, as many more examples recorded in different places and countries can be found with a quick YouTube search: [A](https://youtu.be/Y8GK_I5aiHc) , [B](https://youtu.be/yS4zzVCpXG0?t=35) , [C](https://youtu.be/ojyo_P5FBA4?t=35) , [D](https://youtu.be/wXu96t8ar4g) , [E](https://youtu.be/b402eJ3TdUc) , [F](https://youtu.be/1nNc6_Ycg_o) , [G](https://youtu.be/y7YaOdFlSqY?t=162) , [H](https://youtu.be/_0Iqk2YREyM) , [I](https://youtu.be/WW-dUYjVJwg) , [J](https://youtu.be/UItU6qlKvvA) , [K](https://youtu.be/nS6w5qAw7XY) , [L](https://youtu.be/5Qwn9JA8HU4) , etc. What are the oldest records of this phenomenon? Is it a relatively recent phenomenon in Church History (a few decades old) or can we find older records?
user50422
Sep 21, 2020, 11:26 PM • Last activity: Jul 11, 2025, 01:01 AM
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Was the storm that threatened Jesus' boat in Mark 4:37-39 caused by demonic forces or was it a natural event?
In Mark 4:37–39 (also in Matthew 8:23–27 and Luke 8:22–25), a violent storm arises while Jesus and His disciples are crossing the Sea of Galilee. Jesus is asleep in the boat, and when the disciples wake Him, He rebukes the wind and speaks to the waves, calming the storm: > "He got up, rebuked the wi...
In Mark 4:37–39 (also in Matthew 8:23–27 and Luke 8:22–25), a violent storm arises while Jesus and His disciples are crossing the Sea of Galilee. Jesus is asleep in the boat, and when the disciples wake Him, He rebukes the wind and speaks to the waves, calming the storm: > "He got up, rebuked the wind and said to the waves, 'Quiet! Be still!' Then the wind died down and it was completely calm." — Mark 4:39 (NIV) What stands out is that Jesus rebukes the storm in the same language He often uses when dealing with demons (e.g., Mark 1:25, Luke 4:35). Shortly after this event, Jesus arrives in the region of the Gerasenes and confronts a man possessed by a legion of demons (Mark 5:1–13), who ultimately beg to be cast into a herd of pigs—which then rush into the sea and drown. Some theologians and preachers have connected these events, suggesting that: **The storm may have been a demonic attempt to kill Jesus and His disciples before He could deliver the demoniac.** Question: According to various Christian theological perspectives (e.g., evangelical, Catholic, Orthodox, etc.), is there reason to believe that the storm was caused by demonic forces rather than being a natural phenomenon? How do different traditions interpret the storm in light of the nearby exorcism and the association of demons with the sea?
So Few Against So Many (4829 rep)
Jun 28, 2025, 11:28 PM • Last activity: Jun 30, 2025, 06:53 AM
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Is it true that certain diseases are systematically avoided by Christian faith healers when praying for healing? If so, why?
I took a screenshot from [this video](https://youtu.be/CaIrpN8Ga-g?t=151), juxtaposing two lists of ailments. The left list includes conditions that Christian faith healers consistently never cure, while the right list features conditions they are more willing to pray for, with more frequent claims...
I took a screenshot from [this video](https://youtu.be/CaIrpN8Ga-g?t=151) , juxtaposing two lists of ailments. The left list includes conditions that Christian faith healers consistently never cure, while the right list features conditions they are more willing to pray for, with more frequent claims of healing. Or at least, that's what the video's author claims. enter image description here Is there any truth to this, and if so, why?
user97698
Feb 8, 2025, 01:16 PM • Last activity: Jun 16, 2025, 03:02 AM
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Was cessationism a broadly held belief in the early church?
I'm currently reading Eusebius' History of the church and stumbled upon this passage: > These earnest disciples of great men built on the foundation of the > churches everywhere laid by the apostles, spreading the message still > further and sowing the saving seed of the Kingdom of Heaven far and >...
I'm currently reading Eusebius' History of the church and stumbled upon this passage: > These earnest disciples of great men built on the foundation of the > churches everywhere laid by the apostles, spreading the message still > further and sowing the saving seed of the Kingdom of Heaven far and > wide through the entire world. Very many disciples of the time, their > hearts smitten by the word of God with an ardent passion for true > philosophy, first fulfilled the Saviour's command by distributing > their possessions among the needy; then, leaving their homes behind, > they carried out the work of the evangelists, ambitious to preach to > those who had never yet heard the message of the faith and to give > them the inspired gospels in writing. Staying only to lay the > foundations of the faith in one foreign place or another, appoint > others as pastors, and entrust to the the tending of those newly > brought in, they set off again for other lands and peoples with the > grace and cooperation of God, **for even at that late date many > miraculous powers of the divine Spirit worked through them**, so that at > the first hearing while crowds in a body embraced with a whole-hearted > eagerness the worship of the universal Creator. To me, this seems to imply that readers at Eusebius' time would not expect performing miracles to be a gift that one could possess. Is this line of thing correct? To further clarify, I'm using the same definition of cessationism found on Got Questions > Most cessationists believe that, while God can and still does perform > miracles today, the Holy Spirit no longer uses individuals to perform > miraculous signs.
Nicholas Staab (171 rep)
May 2, 2025, 11:38 PM • Last activity: Jun 7, 2025, 12:14 AM
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What is the Protestant view of the miracle at Fátima?
I’m very curious to hear the Protestant view of Fatima, considering that it involves the Virgin Mary appearing before witnesses, many of whom were skeptics.
I’m very curious to hear the Protestant view of Fatima, considering that it involves the Virgin Mary appearing before witnesses, many of whom were skeptics.
Luke Hill (5538 rep)
Mar 27, 2022, 09:28 PM • Last activity: May 19, 2025, 04:27 PM
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Which Church Fathers say the New Adam married the New Eve at the wedding of Cana?
[Bishop Josephus Meile][1] (†1957) claims in [*Die jungfräulichen Seelen in der Welt*][2] ([*The Virgin Souls in the World*][3]) [p. 28][4] that >At the time of the *wedding at Cana*, as the Fathers of the Church testify, Mary was married as the new Eve to Christ as the New Adam. The new wine of Ca...
Bishop Josephus Meile (†1957) claims in *Die jungfräulichen Seelen in der Welt* (*The Virgin Souls in the World* ) p. 28 that >At the time of the *wedding at Cana*, as the Fathers of the Church testify, Mary was married as the new Eve to Christ as the New Adam. The new wine of Cana symbolizes the love that unites the King and the Queen.
Bei der *Hochzeit zu Kana*, so bezeugen uns die Kirchenväter, ist Maria als neue Eva mit Christus als neuem Adam vermählt worden. Durch den neuen Wein von Kana wird die Liebe versinnbildet, welche den König und die Königin verbindet. Which "Fathers of the Church" say the **wedding at Cana** was that of the **New Eve marrying the New Adam?**
Geremia (42439 rep)
Jun 19, 2021, 11:49 PM • Last activity: Apr 25, 2025, 08:38 PM
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What is the Protestant view on Eucharistic miracles?
From the Wikipedia article on [Eucharistic miracles](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucharistic_miracle): > In Christianity, a Eucharistic miracle is any miracle involving the Eucharist. In the Roman Catholic, Lutheran, Eastern Orthodox, Methodist, Anglican and Oriental Orthodox Churches, the fact th...
From the Wikipedia article on [Eucharistic miracles](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucharistic_miracle) : > In Christianity, a Eucharistic miracle is any miracle involving the Eucharist. In the Roman Catholic, Lutheran, Eastern Orthodox, Methodist, Anglican and Oriental Orthodox Churches, the fact that Christ is really made manifest in the Eucharist is deemed a Eucharistic miracle; however, this is to be distinguished from other manifestations of God. The Catholic Church distinguishes between divine revelation, such as the Eucharist, and private revelation, such as Eucharistic miracles. **In general, reported Eucharistic miracles usually consist of unexplainable phenomena such as consecrated Hosts visibly transforming into myocardium tissue, being preserved for extremely long stretches of time, surviving being thrown into fire, bleeding, or even sustaining people for decades**. The same article includes a list of [extraordinary Eucharistic miracles](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucharistic_miracle#Extraordinary_Eucharistic_miracles) . What is the Protestant view on these miracles? _______ Related: https://christianity.stackexchange.com/q/22765/50422
user50422
Nov 9, 2021, 05:34 PM • Last activity: Apr 21, 2025, 02:41 PM
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Are there any peer-reviewed scientific publications lending credence to Christian miracles?
Are there any publications in peer-reviewed scientific journals lending credence to any Christian miracle? For example, a peer-reviewed publication validating some "unexplainable" healing after intercessory prayer, or a peer-reviewed publication validating some "unexplainable" creative miracle, etc.
Are there any publications in peer-reviewed scientific journals lending credence to any Christian miracle? For example, a peer-reviewed publication validating some "unexplainable" healing after intercessory prayer, or a peer-reviewed publication validating some "unexplainable" creative miracle, etc.
user50422
Nov 25, 2021, 04:05 PM • Last activity: Jan 30, 2025, 02:08 PM
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What to think of miraculous images? (Catholic view)
There is some number of images of Jesus or other spiritual beings that are claimed to be miraculous as they miraculously got exposed in a camera. People who took these images swear there was no the image prior to the picture taking. Some of the images of Jesus: [![enter image description here][1]][1...
There is some number of images of Jesus or other spiritual beings that are claimed to be miraculous as they miraculously got exposed in a camera. People who took these images swear there was no the image prior to the picture taking. Some of the images of Jesus: enter image description here enter image description here Here is a site displaying many images of Jesus's face. Did any of the theologians explain why they resemble the face of Jesus always in a different way? Hardly ever Jesus looks the same. In order to make this question about Christianity, what does the Catholic church say about these miraculous images? Some of the images claim to have the real or similar presence of Christ in them similar to the Eucharist. They also supposedly offer a special spiritual protection if hang in a house.
Grasper (5573 rep)
Oct 26, 2017, 02:27 PM • Last activity: Jan 13, 2025, 07:03 PM
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Looking for information about Arius or his followers did they perform any signs or wonders?
I am interested to know if any spiritual wonders or miracles were performed by arius or his followers. I'm not looking for answers like "wisdom", the church has many saints that performed wonders or had miracles around them. Healing, understanding language, being teleported, invisibility, feeding a...
I am interested to know if any spiritual wonders or miracles were performed by arius or his followers. I'm not looking for answers like "wisdom", the church has many saints that performed wonders or had miracles around them. Healing, understanding language, being teleported, invisibility, feeding a small amount of food to a large group, resurrecting people, etc. Do the churches of Arianism have any miracles, wonders, etc.?
Wyrsa (8411 rep)
Jan 6, 2025, 04:57 PM • Last activity: Jan 7, 2025, 01:10 AM
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Paul’s handkerchief and the physical medium of miracles?
A number of miracles in the New Testament are not wrought by someone just praying. Instead, there are often physical intermediaries. One example is Paul's handkerchief, which could be used to heal people in absence of Paul himself. Another is the lady touching Jesus' robe. Jesus also used mud in the...
A number of miracles in the New Testament are not wrought by someone just praying. Instead, there are often physical intermediaries. One example is Paul's handkerchief, which could be used to heal people in absence of Paul himself. Another is the lady touching Jesus' robe. Jesus also used mud in the eyes of the blind man. Even when other physical objects are not used, often the healer lays hands on the person being healed, which is still a physical object being used as a medium. One could even say the words used in a healing prayer are a physical medium, since the words already exist in the person's mind, and God can read everyone's mind, so aren't strictly necessary to exhibit a person's intent to heal. Why are physical mediums of one sort or another used in the enactment of all the miracles? Why don't people just think the miracle into existence?
yters (1132 rep)
Dec 14, 2024, 02:27 PM • Last activity: Dec 21, 2024, 01:29 AM
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For those who believe in the resurrection, what makes it different from these other extraordinary sightings?
Paul wrote that 500 people saw Jesus at once (1 Cor 15:6). If his recounting is true, it's obvious they saw *something*, but it's not clear to me why that thing couldn't have been a vague figure misinterpreted as Jesus. Here are some similar events: - 108 people saw the Virgin Mary appear at a water...
Paul wrote that 500 people saw Jesus at once (1 Cor 15:6). If his recounting is true, it's obvious they saw *something*, but it's not clear to me why that thing couldn't have been a vague figure misinterpreted as Jesus. Here are some similar events: - 108 people saw the Virgin Mary appear at a waterfall and then to the adults of the group at Mass. Link Among the observers were doctors, psychologists, psychiatrists, engineers, and lawyers. - A second example comes from Cairo, Egypt in 1986, at a Coptic church. Mary had appeared a number of times between 1983 and 1986. Once she appeared on the roof, four Coptic bishops arrived to authenticate the vision. They did indeed see her. At other times she was seen by (non-Christian, obviously) Muslims. Link - During the supposed Miracle of Fatima, many people claimed to see the sun exhibit strange behavior, whirling toward the earth. Link - Betty Parris (age 9) and her cousin Abigail Williams (age 11), the daughter and the niece, respectively, of Reverend Samuel Parris, began to have fits described as "beyond the power of epileptic fits or natural disease to effect" by John Hale, the minister of the nearby town of Beverly. Link - Sixty-two pupils at the Ariel School aged between six and twelve said that they saw one or more silver craft descend from the sky and land on a field near their school. Some of the children claimed that one or more creatures dressed all in black then approached and telepathically communicated to them a message with an environmental theme, frightening them and causing them to cry. Several of them have maintained their account into adulthood. Link
Bart Johnson (83 rep)
Dec 9, 2024, 02:17 AM • Last activity: Dec 20, 2024, 10:09 PM
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Did the healing power source from Jesus or from the Holy Spirit?
Jesus taught that blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven after the Pharisees and Sadducees claimed he was using the power of Beelzebub-the prince of demons to heal. In this response, Jesus is not only acknowledging that the power to heal sources from a distinct entity called the Holy...
Jesus taught that blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven after the Pharisees and Sadducees claimed he was using the power of Beelzebub-the prince of demons to heal. In this response, Jesus is not only acknowledging that the power to heal sources from a distinct entity called the Holy Ghost but also distinguishes himself from the later by acknowledging that he is not that entity but the son of man. *Mathew 12:31* >He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters. 31Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the one to come. Does the statement above show the healing power sourced from the Holy Spirit?
So Few Against So Many (4829 rep)
Nov 27, 2024, 07:37 AM • Last activity: Nov 27, 2024, 02:27 PM
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What do traditions say about the post- healing life of Bartimaeus, the blind beggar?
We read in Mark 10:46-47 > As Jesus was leaving Jericho with his disciples and a sizable crowd, Bartimaeus, a blind man, the son of Timaeus, sat by the roadside begging. On hearing that it was Jesus of Nazareth, he began to cry out and say, "Jesus, son of David, have pity on me." Mark goes on to say...
We read in Mark 10:46-47 > As Jesus was leaving Jericho with his disciples and a sizable crowd, Bartimaeus, a blind man, the son of Timaeus, sat by the roadside begging. On hearing that it was Jesus of Nazareth, he began to cry out and say, "Jesus, son of David, have pity on me." Mark goes on to say that after getting healed by Jesus, Bartimaeus followed the Lord 'in the way'(Verse 52, KJV). In the narration of a number of Jesus' miracles, identity of the beneficiary is not given. That Mark mentions the identity of the blind beggar implies that he would subsequently become a household name among the followers of Christ. My question is : What do traditions say about the post- healing life of Bartimaeus, the blind beggar ?
Kadalikatt Joseph Sibichan (13704 rep)
Oct 27, 2024, 01:01 PM
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What is Catholic Church's official stand on the Loretto Chapel Staircase?
The [staircase in Loretto Chapel in Santa Fe, New Mexico](https://www.lorettochapel.com/staircase) is said to have been built by St. Joseph, the patron saint of carpenters. According to the story, the Sisters of Loretto prayed to St. Joseph for nine days to help them find a builder for a staircase....
The [staircase in Loretto Chapel in Santa Fe, New Mexico](https://www.lorettochapel.com/staircase) is said to have been built by St. Joseph, the patron saint of carpenters. According to the story, the Sisters of Loretto prayed to St. Joseph for nine days to help them find a builder for a staircase. On the last day, a man appeared with a donkey and toolbox and offered to build the staircase. He worked alone using only hand tools and disappeared without being paid or identified. The Sisters believed the man was St. Joseph himself. The staircase is a helix-shaped spiral that stands 20 feet tall and has two 360-degree turns. It was built without nails, only wooden pegs, and has no visible means of support. The staircase's design is considered innovative and baffling, and some of its design considerations remain a mystery to experts today. My question: what is the official stand of the Catholic Church on the aforementioned staircase?
Kadalikatt Joseph Sibichan (13704 rep)
Oct 3, 2024, 02:56 AM • Last activity: Oct 3, 2024, 05:20 AM
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Is there a Christian denomination that teaches that God does heal Alzheimer's disease?
My previous question https://christianity.stackexchange.com/q/103139/76145 got closed, but it prompted some users to post this question https://christianity.stackexchange.com/q/103149/76145 and this meta conversation https://christianity.meta.stackexchange.com/q/7544/76145. So, to ensure I adhere to...
My previous question https://christianity.stackexchange.com/q/103139/76145 got closed, but it prompted some users to post this question https://christianity.stackexchange.com/q/103149/76145 and this meta conversation https://christianity.meta.stackexchange.com/q/7544/76145 . So, to ensure I adhere to the guidelines of this site, I would like to ask now if there is a Christian denomination that teaches that God heals Alzheimer's disease—not just that He has the power to do so "in theory" or "in principle", but that He actually does. Thanks.
user76145
Sep 10, 2024, 01:58 AM • Last activity: Sep 10, 2024, 10:06 AM
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Did Jehovah transform the firstborns of Egypt into cats?
Many of the plagues God sent upon the Egyptians involved crazy miracles like turning the Nile into blood or turning sand into gnats. Are there any interpretations that say that the final curse (death of the firstborn) involved the firstborn sons of Egypt being transformed into cats? Is it possible t...
Many of the plagues God sent upon the Egyptians involved crazy miracles like turning the Nile into blood or turning sand into gnats. Are there any interpretations that say that the final curse (death of the firstborn) involved the firstborn sons of Egypt being transformed into cats? Is it possible to interpret the Hebrew verb "to slay" as "to turn into an animal"? It's not inconsistent with the rest of the plagues of Egypt, and the Egyptians were known for worshipping cats after all...
ArtIntoNihonjin. (599 rep)
Aug 4, 2024, 09:59 AM • Last activity: Aug 4, 2024, 02:05 PM
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Why did Jesus say the dead girl was "not dead but asleep"?
Luke and Matthew tell of when Jesus brought a young girl back to life. Before he did it however, Jesus says to the people that the girl is only sleeping: > **Luke 8:52** > > Meanwhile, all the people were wailing and mourning for her. "Stop wailing," Jesus said. "She is not dead but asleep." > > **M...
Luke and Matthew tell of when Jesus brought a young girl back to life. Before he did it however, Jesus says to the people that the girl is only sleeping: > **Luke 8:52** > > Meanwhile, all the people were wailing and mourning for her. "Stop wailing," Jesus said. "She is not dead but asleep." > > **Matthew 9:24** > > he said, "Go away. The girl is not dead but asleep." But they laughed at him. Why did he tell the people that she was only asleep when she was clearly not? A few things come to my mind: 1. It was a parable 2. He wanted to hide his power from the people, as he did at other times. The problem here is that that would've been a lie. So, what reason was there to tell the people that she was sleeping, rather than that she was dead and he raised her from the dead?
user4136
May 25, 2014, 09:30 PM • Last activity: Jul 23, 2024, 03:42 PM
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Is there a study that gathered credible accounts of healing under scientific scrutiny?
Is there a study that gathered accounts of healing under scientific scrutiny? **What is meant by healing?** Healing in this context means a person who had a medically documented sickness was healed in a Christian setting and was declared medically healthy within 48 hours. I like how Ken Graham put i...
Is there a study that gathered accounts of healing under scientific scrutiny? **What is meant by healing?** Healing in this context means a person who had a medically documented sickness was healed in a Christian setting and was declared medically healthy within 48 hours. I like how Ken Graham put it: "The miraculous healing [...] need to be **spontaneous, instantaneous and complete healing**". I also think the criteria laid out at [The miracles of Lourdes](https://www.lourdes-france.org/en/the-miracles-of-lourdes/) also bring it to the point well. Quote: >1. The 1st criterion is that the disease is serious, with an unfavorable prognosis. >2. Secondly, the disease must be known and recorded by medicine. >3. Thirdly, this disease must be organic, lesional, that is to say, there must be objective, biological, radiological criteria, everything that currently exists in medicine; this means that even today we will not recognize cures of pathologies without precise objective criteria, such as psychological, psychiatric, functional, nervous diseases, etc.
*(this does not mean that these diseases cannot be cured, but according to the criteria of the Church, they will not be recognized as miracles in the current state of affairs).* >4. Fourthly, there must not have been any treatment to which the cure could be attributed.
*(I would be a bit more lenient and say, there should not be a treatment that can work faster than a few weeks)* >5. The 5th criterion concerns the timing of the cure itself: recovery must be sudden, instantaneous, immediate, and without convalescence. >6. Finally, after the cure, there are two additional criteria: it must not simply be a regression of symptoms but a return of all vital functions, and finally, it must not simply be a remission but a cure, i.e. lasting and definitive. **What is meant by scientific scrutiny?** With scientific scrutiny I mean the following: - confirmation bias is accounted for (meaning a trusted party beyond the Christian entity in question has gathered/verified the data or at least can verify the data) - other potential biases are accounted for - the methodology is transparent - the data is complete (but can be anonymized) meaning that every account can be verified by a third party. E.g. X-ray of a broken bone and X-ray of healed broken bone with dates. - Basically, if anyone reads the paper/data, it shouldn't be easy to refute. **Not a replicable experiment/trial** What I do not mean is a replicable experiment, because miracles can only happen when, where, and on who God decides to perform a miracle. Mark 8:11-12 also makes clear that God does not like to be demanded or manipulated into doing miracles: > 11 The Pharisees came and began to argue with him, seeking from him a sign from heaven to test him. 12 And he sighed deeply in his spirit and said, “Why does this generation seek a sign? Truly, I say to you, no sign will be given to this generation.” Also, more scientific reasons why trials don't work here are laid out in a study on the effect of prayer, [Prayer and healing: A medical and scientific perspective on randomized controlled trials](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2802370/) . In essence, the scientific method seeks to find a process/method and control all variables of influence. However, in the case of healing one variable is the whim of God that cannot be controlled. So why the approach I laid out? Well, I don't want to find a Christian method for healing, but want to prove that the phenomenon of healing in Christianity exists. **Why the previous Q&A here, might not answer the question** I've read the answers to this question: https://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/82583/are-there-or-have-there-been-christian-healing-ministries-that-have-documented-h but my problem is that the sources are somewhat old (I skimmed through and didn't see any account later than 1990.) and I cannot verify if those 70 cases of Lourdes were in fact healed. What I mean is that one cannot deduce from a name, name of ailment, date, and Diocese that healing has occurred. (Referencing the table Ken Graham provided [The Cures at Lourdes which have been recognised as miraculous by the Church ](http://www.miraclehunter.com/marian_apparitions/approved_apparitions/lourdes/downloads/lourdes_cures.pdf)) . What I need is not a name but proof of ailment and proof of the absence of ailment within a reasonable timeframe, proof that the healing occurred in a Christian setting (any denomination is fine), and a date for each. Let me be clear: I am not looking for single testimonies but a statistic that aggregated, verified testimonies, and made each testimony verifiable.
telion (699 rep)
May 31, 2024, 12:15 AM • Last activity: Jun 1, 2024, 12:06 AM
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Did the Church Fathers ever reference the six jars of wine at the Wedding in Cana as symbolising the six followers of Jesus at the wedding?
John 1 describes in some detail Jesus calling his first five disciples - Andrew, Simon, Philip, Nathanael and presumably John. John 2 1-2 says that Jesus' mother was at the wedding and Jesus was there with his disciples. So there were six followers of Jesus at the wedding (his mother and five discip...
John 1 describes in some detail Jesus calling his first five disciples - Andrew, Simon, Philip, Nathanael and presumably John. John 2 1-2 says that Jesus' mother was at the wedding and Jesus was there with his disciples. So there were six followers of Jesus at the wedding (his mother and five disciples), and six jars filled with the new wine. The passage here forms a beautiful contrast with Jeremiah 13; 12-14 where people are also referred to as jars of wine. In the Jeremiah passage the people described were the prophets, priests and the kings who sat on David's throne, as well as all the people of Jerusalem. They were all sentenced to destruction. At the wedding at Cana one man, who was a prophet, priest and the king who would sit on David's throne, filled jars with a wine of blessing instead of destruction. It was as if the old wine of God's judgement a ran out at the wedding, and was replaced with the new wine of His blessing. I wonder if this, the first sign that Jesus did, set the pattern for the rest of Jesus' ministry - he filled the 12, then the 70, then the 3,000 at Pentecost. And these people, like the jars of new wine filled to the brim at the wedding, (John 2:7) went on to share the new wine they carried with others, spreading the gospel of the Kingdom far and wide. Incidentally the amount of wine Jesus created (approximately 150 gallons) was enough to give 3,000 people a good measure. Could it be that Jesus was looking all the way to Pentecost when he created the wine? This all makes sense to me, but I've not seen this referenced anywhere else, so I would be curious to know if other people have found anything in church history like this?
Grant Shipley (69 rep)
Mar 12, 2021, 08:27 AM • Last activity: May 21, 2024, 07:08 PM
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