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What are all the end times Bible passages (from the canonical books)?
Until now I have found the following end times Bible passages: - Daniel 7,8,10,11,12 - Joel 2:28-32 - Matthew 24 - Mark 13 - Luke 21:5-36 - 2 Peter 3:1-13 - 1 Corinthians 15:12-58 - 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 - 1 Thessalonians 5:1-11 - 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 - 1 Timothy 4:1-5 - 2 Timothy 3:1-9 - Revela...
Until now I have found the following end times Bible passages:
- Daniel 7,8,10,11,12
- Joel 2:28-32
- Matthew 24
- Mark 13
- Luke 21:5-36
- 2 Peter 3:1-13
- 1 Corinthians 15:12-58
- 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18
- 1 Thessalonians 5:1-11
- 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12
- 1 Timothy 4:1-5
- 2 Timothy 3:1-9
- Revelation 1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22
Are there any others?
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Micah 5:4 Why does it say "His God"
The verse reads (KJV): > “And he shall stand and feed in the strength of the LORD, in the majesty of the name of the LORD his God; and they shall abide: for now shall he be great unto the ends of the earth.” I understand this verse is tied to the prophecy of the Messiah being born in Bethlehem. Howe...
The verse reads (KJV):
> “And he shall stand and feed in the strength of the LORD, in the majesty of the name of the LORD his God; and they shall abide: for now shall he be great unto the ends of the earth.”
I understand this verse is tied to the prophecy of the Messiah being born in Bethlehem. However, the wording “**his** God” raises questions for me in the context of the Trinity.
I am following Chuck Smith's Blue Letter Bible (verse by verse commentary) but he doesn’t address this phrasing.
Matthew Henry's touches on it, suggesting that the Messiah “speaks with God’s authority,” referencing Matthew 7:28 (“because he was teaching them as one who had authority”).
This seems related to other biblical patterns where God’s people or godly figures are “called by God’s name,” such as Daniel 1:19, Jeremiah 15:16, Jeremiah 14:9, Isaiah 43:6, and Acts 15:17. Another example is Exodus 23:21, where the angel (or Jesus, if seen as a Christophany) “carries God’s name.”
I also understand that Jesus can address God as “My God” (Matthew 27:46), but in Micah, the author doesn’t seem concerned about drawing a strong distinction between the Messianic figure and God.
I would greatly appreciate insight into this phrasing in Micah 5:4 — why does it say “His God”? What theological or textual reasons might explain it?
Thank you in advance.
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Astronomical Dating in Biblical Prophecy
Does anyone have any good resources on Astronomical dating of Biblical prophecy? I have been looking into how Daniel and John used Astronomical "signs" to date their prophecies and have made several interesting connections. But I need more information on how these prophets use the descriptions of th...
Does anyone have any good resources on Astronomical dating of Biblical prophecy? I have been looking into how Daniel and John used Astronomical "signs" to date their prophecies and have made several interesting connections. But I need more information on how these prophets use the descriptions of their visions to relate with astronomical positions of the stars and planets.
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Which decree is the correct interpretation of Daniel 9:25?
Whilst there are other questions I have found similar to this one, they do not specifically seem to explain the exact start date for the 70 week prophecy in Daniel regarding the command to rebuild Jerusalem. If we read the Daniel 9:25 prophecy, verse 25 talks about "**restore and rebuild Jerusalem**...
Whilst there are other questions I have found similar to this one, they do not specifically seem to explain the exact start date for the 70 week prophecy in Daniel regarding the command to rebuild Jerusalem.
If we read the Daniel 9:25 prophecy, verse 25 talks about "**restore and rebuild Jerusalem**".
**Cyrus decrees in Ezra 1 to Return to Jerusalem and Build the Temple**
> In the first year of Cyrus king of Persia, to fulfill the word of the
> LORD spoken through Jeremiah, the LORD stirred the spirit of Cyrus
> king of Persia to send a proclamation throughout his kingdom and to
> put it in writing as follows:
>
> 2“This is what Cyrus king of Persia says:
>
> ‘The LORD, the God of heaven, who has given me all the kingdoms of the
> earth, has appointed me to build a house for Him at Jerusalem in Judah.
Zerubbabel is among those who return to carry out this decree.
**Enemies of the tribes obtain a decree to stop construction**
King Artaxerxes, in the first year of his reign, after being told by the "enemies of Judah and Ephraim" and also consulting the original decree given by Cyrus, believes the Israelites are in breach of said decree (in that only the Temple may be built) and stops the entire process.
> *Ezra 4 12 "Let it be known to the king that the Jews who came from you to us have returned to Jerusalem. And they are rebuilding that
> rebellious and wicked city, restoring its walls, and repairing its
> foundations." 21 Now, therefore, issue an order for these men to stop,
> so that this city will not be rebuilt until I so order.*
We obviously know that he was told a falsehood by the enemies of Judah and Ephraim about what was actually going on in Jerusalem in that they were not rebuilding city walls as Artaxerxes was led to believe, however, he stopped the process nonetheless.
Moving forward in history...we know in Ezra 6, after the death of Artaxerxes, construction restarted by Zerubbabel, and that King Darius was approached by Tattenai the governor of the region west of the Euphrates to confirm the decree to rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem. The response from Darius:
> Exra 6:1 Thus King Darius ordered a search of the archives stored in the
> treasury of Babylon. 2And a scroll was found in the fortress of
> Ecbatana, in the province of Media, with the following written on it:
>
> Memorandum:
>
> 3In the first year of King Cyrus, he issued a decree concerning the
> house of God in Jerusalem:
>
> Let the house be rebuilt as a place for offering sacrifices, and let
> its foundations be firmly laid. It is to be sixty cubits high and
> sixty cubits wide,a 4with three layers of cut stones and one of
> timbers. The costs are to be paid from the royal treasury.
>
> 5Furthermore, the gold and silver articles of the house of God, which
> Nebuchadnezzar took from the temple in Jerusalem and carried to
> Babylon, must also be returned to the temple in Jerusalem and
> deposited in the house of God.
>
> 6Therefore Darius decreed:
>
> To Tattenai governor of the region west of the Euphrates,b
> Shethar-bozenai, and your associates and officials in the region:
>
> You must stay away from that place! 7Leave this work on the house of
> God alone. Let the governor and elders of the Jews rebuild this house
> of God on its original site.
**Ezra obtains letters from Artaxerxes and returns from Babylon**
Ezra is granted authority by king Artaxerxes in the 7th year of his reign. However, it appears to me that the letter given to Ezra by the kind at that time is still only for Temple, its services, and for the self governance of Judah. It does not appear to make any reference to the rebuilding of the city itself.
> Ezra 7:12 Artaxerxes, king of kings.
>
> To Ezra the priest, the scribe of the Law of the God of heaven:
>
> Greetings.d
>
> 13I hereby decree that any volunteers among the Israelites in my
> kingdom, including the priests and Levites, may go up with you to
> Jerusalem. 14You are sent by the king and his seven counselors to
> evaluate Judah and Jerusalem according to the Law of your God, which
> is in your hand.
> *Ezra7: 23 Whatever is commanded by the God of heaven must be done diligently for His house.*
Some 12 or 13 years later, in the 20th year of Artaxerxes reign, Nehemiah the cupbearer asks the king for permission to **rebuild the walls and gates of the city**
> *Nehemiah 2:4 “...If it pleases the king, and if your servant has found favor in your sight, I ask that you send me to Judah, to the
> city where my fathers are buried, so that I may rebuild it.” 7 I also
> said to him, “If it pleases the king, may letters be given to me for
> the governors west of the Euphrates,b so that they will grant me safe
> passage until I reach Judah. 8And may I have a letter to Asaph, keeper
> of the king’s forest, so that he will give me timber to make beams for
> the gates of the citadel to the temple, for the city wall, and for the
> house I will occupy.”*
My point of interest is the original prophecy in Daniel 9 stating **restore and rebuild Jerusalem**. The decree given by Cyrus is only for the Temple, then Nehemiah is given authority to build the city walls and gates.
Finally, remember the prophecy given in Isaiah 44):
> 26 who confirms the message of His servant and fulfills the counsel of
> His messengers, who says of Jerusalem, ‘She will be inhabited,’ and of
> the cities of Judah, ‘They will be rebuilt, and I will restore their
> ruins,’ 27who says to the depths of the sea, ‘Be dry, and I will dry
> up your currents,’ 28who says of Cyrus, ‘My shepherd will fulfill all
> that I desire,’ who says of Jerusalem, ‘She will be rebuilt,’ and of
> the temple, ‘Let its foundation be laid.’
Which of the above is the official decree that fulfills the explanation of the prophecy by the angel Gabriel in Daniel 9:25?
1. The first decree given to build the Temple by Cyrus in 539 B.C and overseen by Zerubbabel (Cyrus lived 600-530 B.C)
2. the second decree given by Darius the Great 522-486 B.C (what year was this decree given... 521 B.C?)
3. The authority given to Ezra by Artaxerxes in 7th year of his reign (457 B.C)
4. or the letters given to Nehemiah by Artexerxes to build the city walls and gates? (445 B.C)
Dates for the above are based on Wikipedia (Cyrus The Great , Darius The Great or Hystaspes , Artaxerxes I )
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What is the Biblical definition of "prophecy"?
In common parlance, prophecy is often considered to be "predicting the future." For some, it conjures up images of telephone psychics and the like. Others might envision a crystal ball. It generally has a mystical connotation of some type. On the other hand, the "prophets" of Scripture (e.g. Malachi...
In common parlance, prophecy is often considered to be "predicting the future." For some, it conjures up images of telephone psychics and the like. Others might envision a crystal ball. It generally has a mystical connotation of some type.
On the other hand, the "prophets" of Scripture (e.g. Malachi, Habakkuk, Jonah) seem to be doing something different. Making explicit predictions about the future seems to be a small part of their function as a "prophet."
So my question is: **Biblically speaking, what exactly is prophecy?** Is there a Biblical definition that matches the actual practices of the prophets?
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*If possible, please support your answers using the 66 books of Scripture that are found in the Protestant Bible.*
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Do present-day patterns like Earth’s tilt, orbital speed, and calendar cycles show we are in the “beast system” of Revelation 13:18?
Revelation 13:18 (KJV) — *“Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.”* Some Christians point to persistent physical and time-related patterns in creation and human measurement system...
Revelation 13:18 (KJV) — *“Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.”*
Some Christians point to persistent physical and time-related patterns in creation and human measurement systems that seem to feature “666,” such as:
- **Earth’s axial tilt:
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- **Earth’s orbital speed: ≈ 66,600 mph (depending on units and rounding)**
- **Calendar division: 6 × 60 × 60 seconds in a day’s time measurement pattern**
- **Barcodes: The guard bars in UPC codes resemble the digit “6” in the barcode system, producing a “666” pattern**
Since Revelation calls believers to “count” the number, could such existing patterns be indicators that we are already living in the “beast system”? Or should these be understood as coincidences or unrelated to the prophecy?
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Other than potential Messianic Psalms, which Psalms from Asaph, Heman, Jeduthum are thought to be prophetic?
**1 Chronicles 25:1-5 makes a point of identifying Asaph, Heman, and Jeduthun as prophets/seers.** This suggests that some of the psalms in Psalms are prophetic, anticipating future events. Several of these psalms are recognized as messianic, but largely because the NT treats them as such. But what...
**1 Chronicles 25:1-5 makes a point of identifying Asaph, Heman, and Jeduthun as prophets/seers.** This suggests that some of the psalms in Psalms are prophetic, anticipating future events. Several of these psalms are recognized as messianic, but largely because the NT treats them as such. But what about non-messianic psalms? **Has anyone developed a candidate list of (non-messianic) psalms which should be approached as prophetic, anticipating--at the time they were published--events which were yet future?**
**Perhaps Psalm 137 is one of these?** It is commonly claimed that this psalm is exilic or even post-exilic, due to the initial reference to Babylon, remembrance of Zion, remembrance of the treatment of their captors, etc.1 Yet 137:5 is concerned that one might forget Jerusalem, which seems to exclude a post-exilic situation, unless the concern is that they might forget Jerusalem's former glory; but that goes beyond what is said. Further, 137:8 indicates that Babylon had not yet been destroyed. In some ways this psalm offers parallels to Isaiah 40-66 (esp. Isa 47) which, on the premise that there was a singular writer of Isaiah, prophetically speaks from a perspective of those already in exile.
1 Examples are Kidner and Belcher: "This psalm needs no title to announce that its provenance was the Babylonian exile." Derek Kidner, *Psalms 73–150: An Introduction and Commentary*, Tyndale Old Testament Commentaries (Downers Grove, IL: InterVarsity Press, 1975), 495. "Psalm 137 arises out of the experience of the community in exile in Babylon following the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple in 587 BC. Although the author may be looking back on that experience the memory is fresh and the historical situation is still unsettled." Richard P. Belcher Jr., The Messiah and the Psalms: Preaching Christ from All the Psalms (Ross-shire, Scotland: Mentor, 2006), 76.
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How do non-Dispensationalists interpret Genesis 12:3 which Zionist Dispensationalists use to support non-Christian Israel?
***Zionism*** (political nationalism) certainly was not begun by Dispensationalists; and the occurrence of the Halocaust did give impetus to it. But Dispensationalist have strongly embraced it. And Zionist Dispensationalists often quote the Genesis 12 verse, ***God will bless those who bless Israel,...
***Zionism*** (political nationalism) certainly was not begun by Dispensationalists; and the occurrence of the Halocaust did give impetus to it. But Dispensationalist have strongly embraced it. And Zionist Dispensationalists often quote the Genesis 12 verse, ***God will bless those who bless Israel, and curse those who curse Israel*** to justify their support, spiritually, financially, and militarily, for the nation of modern Israel.
>I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse, and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you. (Genesis 12:3)
This is even though the majority of the Jews in Israel are either ***secular, or anti-Christian***. And are seen to persecute Christians living there. (Statements by King of Jordon, and news reports on TBN network who reluctantly received his report until they saw videos themselves of Jews disrupting Christian rites). And ***Christian Palestinians*** are not even on their radar screen!
So how do ***protestant orthodox Christian scholars*** deal with this seminal verse about blessing Israel in contrast to the Dispensational interpretation? Which other scriptures do non-Disp. Christians appeal to, that causes them to treat ***all nation equally***, with love and mercy, without referring to any particular nation or political entity?
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How can Matthew 2:18 be fulfilled prophecy if Ramah is north of Jerusalem and Bethlehem is south?
Regarding the passage `Mt 2:13-18`. Joseph flees to Egypt with Jesus and Mary after being warned by an angel that Jesus’ life is in danger. Herod then kills all the male children less than 2 years old in and around Bethlehem (8 miles *south* of Jerusalem). Matthew calls this tragic event the fulfill...
Regarding the passage
Mt 2:13-18
. Joseph flees to Egypt with Jesus and Mary after being warned by an angel that Jesus’ life is in danger. Herod then kills all the male children less than 2 years old in and around Bethlehem (8 miles *south* of Jerusalem). Matthew calls this tragic event the fulfillment of Je 31:15
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> A cry is heard in Ramah… Rachel weeps for her children… for her children are gone.
However, OT verses and sources from bibleatlas.org point to Ramah being 8+ miles *north* of Jerusalem. How can the verses in Matthew and Jeremiah refer to the same place if they are 16+ miles apart? What am I missing?

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What is the foundational support for interpreting prophecies as having dual fulfillments?
There are a handful of prophecies that Christians consider as having ["dual fulfillments"][1] - one at the time, and one in the future. Matthew 24, Isaiah 7:14, etc. are examples. Where did this method of interpretation originate, and more importantly upon what foundation / first-principles does it...
There are a handful of prophecies that Christians consider as having "dual fulfillments" - one at the time, and one in the future. Matthew 24, Isaiah 7:14, etc. are examples.
Where did this method of interpretation originate, and more importantly upon what foundation / first-principles does it rest? One could say, let's give it three interpretations, or let's say it was a failed prophecy, or let's say the original prophecy was fulfilled - but in a different way, etc. but instead Christians choose to utilize this Dual Fulfillment method on many prophecies.
The explanation I've come across typically goes something like: "the first prophecy did not fully come about, so we'll see it fully happen sometime in the future." But, that's an obvious False Dilemma , as there are many other ways to explain the first prophecy not being "fully fulfilled". Would appreciate someone with more expertise chiming in.
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Does Bible prophecy describe the end of time or the end of evil?
In reading biblical prophecies about the end times—particularly in books like Daniel, Matthew 24, and Revelation—it's clear that major events such as the final judgment, the defeat of Satan, and the creation of a new heaven and new earth are prophesied. But does the Bible actually predict the end of...
In reading biblical prophecies about the end times—particularly in books like Daniel, Matthew 24, and Revelation—it's clear that major events such as the final judgment, the defeat of Satan, and the creation of a new heaven and new earth are prophesied.
But does the Bible actually predict the end of time itself, or is it more accurate to say it describes the end of evil and the restoration of righteousness?
Do any Christian traditions interpret these eschatological passages as pointing to a timeless eternity after judgment, or is time understood to continue in a renewed creation?
Relevant passages might include Revelation 21–22, 1 Corinthians 15:24–28, and others.
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Is the ability to accurately predict the future a reliable test of a true prophet, given that Satan does not know the future?
Deuteronomy 18:21–22 says that if a prophet’s words do not come to pass, then the Lord has not spoken through them. This seems to suggest that fulfilled prophecy is a sign of true prophecy. Some Christians also believe that Satan does not know the future in the way God does (i.e., perfectly and comp...
Deuteronomy 18:21–22 says that if a prophet’s words do not come to pass, then the Lord has not spoken through them. This seems to suggest that fulfilled prophecy is a sign of true prophecy. Some Christians also believe that Satan does not know the future in the way God does (i.e., perfectly and completely), so any accurate future prediction would necessarily come from God.
However, in Matthew 24:24, Jesus warns of false prophets performing great signs and wonders that could deceive even the elect if that were possible. Does this imply that even seemingly accurate future predictions could come from deceptive sources?
So my question is:
Can fulfilled predictions about the future be used as a reliable test to determine whether a prophet is truly from God, considering the claim that Satan does not know the future? Or are there additional biblical criteria that must be used to discern a true prophet?
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According to those who believe Numbers 24:17 is a Messianic prophecy, how did Jesus crush the skulls of Moab?
Numbers 24:17 says: >*“I see him, but not now; I behold him, but not near. A star shall come out of Jacob, and a scepter shall rise out of Israel; he shall crush the skulls of Moab and break down all the sons of Sheth.”* This verse is commonly understood by some Christian traditions to be a Messiani...
Numbers 24:17 says:
>*“I see him, but not now; I behold him, but not near. A star shall come out of Jacob, and a scepter shall rise out of Israel; he shall crush the skulls of Moab and break down all the sons of Sheth.”*
This verse is commonly understood by some Christian traditions to be a Messianic prophecy pointing to Jesus Christ—with the “star” and “scepter” symbolizing His **divine authority** and **kingship**.
However, the latter part of the verse includes a violent image:
>*“he shall crush the skulls of Moab.”*
According to those who believe Jesus is the fulfillment of this prophecy, how did he fulfill this part of the verse?
This is because this verse was fulfilled in David who led his armies against the Moabites and conquered them, so how do they reconcile that?
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Do Christians who believe Isaiah 7 is a dual fulfillment believe that there were two virgin births?
### Isaiah 7 Background Isaiah 7:14 is famously quoted by the Gospel of Matthew (Matt 1:23) as a prophecy about Jesus’s birth: > She will bear a son, and you are to name him Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins.” All this took place to fulfill what had been spoken by the Lord through t...
### Isaiah 7 Background
Isaiah 7:14 is famously quoted by the Gospel of Matthew (Matt 1:23) as a prophecy about Jesus’s birth:
> She will bear a son, and you are to name him Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins.” All this took place to fulfill what had been spoken by the Lord through the prophet: “**Look, the virgin shall become pregnant and give birth to a son, and they shall name him Emmanuel**,” which means, “God is with us.” - Matthew 1:22-23 (NRSV)
Many Christian apologists recognize that the events of Isaiah 7 and the prophecy of the birth of the child had an application in the time of Isaiah during the Syro-Ephraimite war , with the maturation of the child marking the victory of Judah over Syria:
> Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign. Look, the young woman is with child and shall bear a son and shall name him Immanuel. He shall eat curds and honey by the time he knows how to refuse the evil and choose the good. **For before the child knows how to refuse the evil and choose the good, the land before whose two kings you are in dread will be deserted**. The Lord will bring on you and on your people and on your ancestral house such days as have not come since the day that Ephraim departed from Judah—the king of Assyria.” - Isaiah 7:14-17 (NRSV)
Those who believe that there was an immediate context and fulfillment of this prophecy believe that it was later re-fulfilled in the birth of Jesus as a “dual-fulfillment ”, such as Dr. Michael Brown .
### Two Virgin Births?
Do Christians who believe in a dual-fulfillment of Isaiah 7 believe that there were two virgin births? If so, do they believe that the first virgin born child was some kind of divine figure like Jesus? If there were not two virgin births, how was this prophecy fulfilled twice?
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Does the prophet Haggai imply that Zerubbabel could be the Messiah? (Haggai 2)
The final words of the Book of Haggai are: > The word of the Lord came a second time to Haggai on the twenty-fourth > day of the month, “Speak to Zerub′babel, governor of Judah, saying, I > am about to shake the heavens and the earth, and to overthrow the > throne of kingdoms; I am about to destroy...
The final words of the Book of Haggai are:
> The word of the Lord came a second time to Haggai on the twenty-fourth
> day of the month, “Speak to Zerub′babel, governor of Judah, saying, I
> am about to shake the heavens and the earth, and to overthrow the
> throne of kingdoms; I am about to destroy the strength of the kingdoms
> of the nations, and overthrow the chariots and their riders; and the
> horses and their riders shall go down, every one by the sword of his
> fellow. On that day, says the Lord of hosts, I will take you, O
> Zerub′babel my servant, the son of She-al′ti-el, says the Lord, and
> make you like a signet ring; for I have chosen you, says the Lord of
> hosts.”
The reference to being chosen as God's "signet ring" at least evokes a sense that the prophet predicted a restoration of royal authority approved by God (see Jeremiah 22:24). Zerubbabel was a descendant of King David and the grandson of one of Judah's last kings. Given his lineage and the powerful words of promise above, is Haggai expressing a messianic hope in Zerubbabel? (Note: I mean this in the sense of the Jewish messiah, who restores the throne of David, not the Christian sense, in which the messiah dies for the sins of mankind.)
Related questions: whether or not this is a messianic prophecy, why does it seem it was not fulfilled. Were there events in Zerubbabel's time that fulfilled the prophecy? In what sense did he become God's "signet ring?"
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What is the Catholic Church's view of Anne Catherine Emmerich - can her visions and prophecies be trusted?
What is the Catholic Church's view of [Anne Catherine Emmerich][1] - can her visions and prophecies be trusted? Is she a true prophet by the biblical standard? *(This question has been prompted by the comments to the answer to [What did the serpent look like?](https://christianity.stackexchange.com/...
What is the Catholic Church's view of Anne Catherine Emmerich - can her visions and prophecies be trusted? Is she a true prophet by the biblical standard?
*(This question has been prompted by the comments to the answer to [What did the serpent look like?](https://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/7632/what-did-the-serpent-look-like/31040#31040)*)
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Why do non-LDS Christians believe Joseph Smith was a false prophet?
### Introduction Joseph Smith is the founder of Mormonism and considered to be an a prophet of God by the LDS Church. Latter Day Saints believe that the Christian bible (Old and New Testaments) [predicts the coming of Joseph Smith][1], that he brought forth the Book of Mormon, restored a lost priest...
### Introduction
Joseph Smith is the founder of Mormonism and considered to be an a prophet of God by the LDS Church. Latter Day Saints believe that the Christian bible (Old and New Testaments) predicts the coming of Joseph Smith , that he brought forth the Book of Mormon, restored a lost priesthood, and established the true church.
On the other hand, non-LDS Christians call Smith a false prophet and accuse him of theological fraud.
### Question
What reasons do non-LDS Christians give for calling Joseph Smith a "false prophet"? What criteria do they use to determine Joseph Smith is not a true Christian prophet?
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Why do LDS believe Joseph Smith was a true prophet?
A [recent question][1] and an [older question][2] have accrued several answers with 'false' prophecies of Joseph Smith. Below is a compilation of them: 1. [D&C 84:2-5,31][3] Prophecy that the temple would be built in Missouri within Smith's Generation >2 Yea, the word of the Lord concerning his chur...
A recent question and an older question have accrued several answers with 'false' prophecies of Joseph Smith. Below is a compilation of them:
1. D&C 84:2-5,31 Prophecy that the temple would be built in Missouri within Smith's Generation
>2 Yea, the word of the Lord concerning his church, established in the last days for the restoration of his people, as he has spoken by the mouth of his prophets, and for the gathering of his saints to stand upon Mount Zion, which shall be the city of New Jerusalem.
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>3 Which city shall be built, beginning at the temple lot, which is appointed by the finger of the Lord, in the western boundaries of the State of Missouri, and dedicated by the hand of Joseph Smith, Jun., and others with whom the Lord was well pleased.
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>4 Verily this is the word of the Lord, that the city New Jerusalem shall be built by the gathering of the saints, beginning at this place, even the place of the temple, which temple shall be reared in this generation.
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>5 For verily this generation shall not all pass away until an house shall be built unto the Lord, and a cloud shall rest upon it, which cloud shall be even the glory of the Lord, which shall fill the house.
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>31 Therefore, as I said concerning the sons of Moses—for the sons of Moses and also the sons of Aaron shall offer an acceptable offering and sacrifice in the house of the Lord, which house shall be built unto the Lord in this generation, upon the consecrated spot as I have appointed
2. D&C 87:1-3 1832 Joseph Smith prophesied that the United States civil war would eventually engulf all nations
>1 Verily, **thus saith the Lord** concerning the wars that will shortly come to pass, beginning at the rebellion of South Carolina, which will eventually terminate in the death and misery of many souls;
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>2 And the time will come that war will be poured out upon all nations, beginning at this place.
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>3 For behold, the Southern States shall be divided against the Northern States, and the Southern States will call on other nations, even the nation of Great Britain, as it is called, and they shall also call upon other nations, in order to defend themselves against other nations; and then war shall be poured out upon all nations.
3. History of the Church, vol. 2, p. 182 1835 Joseph Smith prophesied the Lord’s return within 56 years
>President Smith then stated that the meeting had been called, because God had commanded it; and it was made known to him by vision and by the Holy Spirit. He then gave a relation of some of the circumstances attending while journeying to Zion—our trials, sufferings; and said God had not designed all this for nothing, but He had it in remembrance yet; and it was the will of God that those who went Zion, with a determination to lay down their lives, if necessary, should be ordained to the ministry, and go forth to prune the vineyard for the last time, or the coming of the Lord, which was nigh—even fifty-six years should wind up the scene.
4. History of the Church, vol. 5, pg. 394 1843 Joseph Smith prophesied that the United States government would be overthrown and wasted within a few years if they refused to redress the wrongs committed against the Mormons in Missouri
>**I prophesy in the name of the Lord God** of Israel, unless the United States redress the wrongs committed upon the Saints in the state of Missouri and punish the crimes committed by her officers that in a few years the government will be utterly overthrown and wasted, and there will not be so much as a potsherd left
5. D&C 114:1 Apr 1838 David Patten would go on a mission (he died October 1838 before he could)
>1 Verily thus saith the Lord: It is wisdom in my servant David W. Patten, that he settle up all his business as soon as he possibly can, and make a disposition of his merchandise, that he may perform a mission unto me next spring, in company with others, even twelve including himself, to testify of my name and bear glad tidings unto all the world.
6. History of the Church, vol 6, p 116 1843
>While discussing the petition to Congress, I prophesied, by virtue of the holy Priesthood vested in me, and in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, that, if Congress will not hear our petition and grant us protection, they shall be broken up as a government
How do LDS explain how Joseph Smith is a prophet when there are false prophecies?
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According to those who believe Jesus was the last prophet, what are Christians with the spiritual gift of prophecy supposed to be called?
Some Christians hold the view that Jesus was the final prophet in a unique or ultimate sense. However, passages like 1 Corinthians 12:10 mention that the Holy Spirit gives some believers the gift of prophecy: >"to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spir...
Some Christians hold the view that Jesus was the final prophet in a unique or ultimate sense. However, passages like 1 Corinthians 12:10 mention that the Holy Spirit gives some believers the gift of prophecy:
>"to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues..." (NIV)
If Jesus is considered the last prophet, how do those who hold that view understand the ongoing operation of prophecy in the Church? What terminology is used for individuals who exhibit this spiritual gift, if not “prophet”?
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Do Christians believe that the Old Testament prophesied an end to observance of the Mosaic law?
### Introduction The Law of Moses/Torah of Moses are a body of commandments and laws which were given to the nation of Israel at Mount Sinai by God. Observant Jews continue to follow these laws as understood through rabbinic traditions and interpretations, while most major Christian denominations mo...
### Introduction
The Law of Moses/Torah of Moses are a body of commandments and laws which were given to the nation of Israel at Mount Sinai by God. Observant Jews continue to follow these laws as understood through rabbinic traditions and interpretations, while most major Christian denominations more or less do not.
The Old Testament/Hebrew Bible contains many scriptures which seem to indicate that the Mosaic law is eternal and uses the same word used elsewhere that describes God being eternal:
**Exodus 31:16–17 (NRSV)** indicates observance of the Sabbath is an eternal activity:
> Therefore the Israelites shall keep the Sabbath, observing the Sabbath throughout their generations, as a **perpetual covenant**. It is a sign **forever** between me and the Israelites that in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested and was refreshed.
**Leviticus 16:29-34** indicates Yom Kippur should be observed forever:
> This shall be a statute to you **forever**: In the seventh month, on the tenth day of the month, you shall humble yourselves ... This shall be an **everlasting statute** for you, to make atonement for the Israelites once in the year for all their sins. And Moses did as the Lord had commanded him.
**Deuteronomy 29:29** seems to indicate that all the words of the law should be followed for all time by the children of Israel:
> The secret things belong to the Lord our God, but the revealed things belong to us and to our children **forever**, to observe all the words of this law.
**Jeremiah 31:31** makes a promise that the Jews will have the Mosaic law written on their heart in the future:
> The days are surely coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah. It will not be like the covenant that I made with their ancestors when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt—a covenant that they broke, though I was their husband, says the Lord. But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: **I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts**, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. No longer shall they teach one another or say to each other, “Know the Lord,” for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest, says the Lord, for I will forgive their iniquity and remember their sin no more.
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Do Christians believe that the Hebrew Bible prophesied that the commandments it called eternal would one day end? Is there an Old Testament basis for believing observance of the Mosaic law would not be forever?
Views from all denominations welcome.
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