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What is the Christian understanding of the vision of Obadiah?
How do Christians understand the vision of Obadiah? Is this an end time prophecy? If so who is Edom today? If they believe this was already fulfilled in the past and Edom no longer exists then why do we not see that the kingdom has already been established as the vision concludes?
How do Christians understand the vision of Obadiah? Is this an end time prophecy? If so who is Edom today? If they believe this was already fulfilled in the past and Edom no longer exists then why do we not see that the kingdom has already been established as the vision concludes?
Yaakov Tzir
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Why does the author of Hebrews picture Esau as an immoral and godless person?
We read in Hebrews 12:16 : > See to it that no one becomes like Esau, an immoral and godless person, who sold his birthright for a single meal. Gen 25:29-34 tells us how Jacob "bought" the birthright due to Esau: > Once when Jacob was cooking some stew, Esau came in from the open country, famished....
We read in Hebrews 12:16 :
> See to it that no one becomes like Esau, an immoral and godless person, who sold his birthright for a single meal.
Gen 25:29-34 tells us how Jacob "bought" the birthright due to Esau:
> Once when Jacob was cooking some stew, Esau came in from the open country, famished. He said to Jacob, “Quick, let me have some of that red stew! I’m famished!” (That is why he was also called Edom. Jacob replied, “First sell me your birthright.” “Look, I am about to die,” Esau said. “What good is the birthright to me?” But Jacob said, “Swear to me first.” So he swore an oath to him, selling his birthright to Jacob. Then Jacob gave Esau some bread and some lentil stew. He ate and drank, and then got up and left. So Esau despised his birthright.
Gen 27 further gives a full account of how Isaac, old and weak in the eyes, was deceived by Jacob into believing that he was Esau.
As such, Genesis gives a picture of Esau as a simpleton who would sell his precious birthright for a cup of stew, but not as someone who was immoral and godless.
My question therefore is: Why does the author of Hebrews picture Esau as an immoral and godless person? Inputs from any denomination are welcome.
Kadalikatt Joseph Sibichan
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Was Esau's Birthright also a physical token?
I read long ago in the Open Bible as a note, that birth rights were actually a physical carved token that Jacob tricked Esau out of, I guess a registered icon with the powers that be. Is this true? It's never mentioned anyone else. It seems to make sense to me, as Esau could've lied to this father,...
I read long ago in the Open Bible as a note, that birth rights were actually a physical carved token that Jacob tricked Esau out of, I guess a registered icon with the powers that be. Is this true? It's never mentioned anyone else.
It seems to make sense to me, as Esau could've lied to this father, even though he swore to Jacob. He couldn't do this if the supposed birthright token was transferred to Jacob.
Perhaps the bible version I read was incorrect... would be interesting to find out for sure.
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Why did Esau despise his birthright?
[Genesis 25:29-34][1] tells the story about Esau selling his birthright because he is hungry and despised it. > And Jacob sod pottage: and Esau came from the field, and he was faint: And Esau said to Jacob, Feed me, I pray thee, with that same red pottage; for I am faint: therefore was his name call...
Genesis 25:29-34 tells the story about Esau selling his birthright because he is hungry and despised it.
> And Jacob sod pottage: and Esau came from the field, and he was faint: And Esau said to Jacob, Feed me, I pray thee, with that same red pottage; for I am faint: therefore was his name called Edom. And Jacob said, Sell me this day thy birthright. And Esau said, Behold, I am at the point to die: and what profit shall this birthright do to me? And Jacob said, Swear to me this day; and he sware unto him: and he sold his birthright unto Jacob. Then Jacob gave Esau bread and pottage of lentiles; and he did eat and drink, and rose up, and went his way: thus Esau despised his birthright.
Why did he (Esau) despise his birthright?
Is there a good Christian commentary that explains what "despised" means, and why Esau would have despised it?
Barnstokkr
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What was the Birthright?
What, specifically, did Esau lose when he lost the birthright, and what did Jacob gain? What did the birthright represent, and why was it so highly prized by Jacob?
What, specifically, did Esau lose when he lost the birthright, and what did Jacob gain? What did the birthright represent, and why was it so highly prized by Jacob?
Bob Black
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What is the difference between the Edomites and the Amalekites?
Esau is considered the ancestor of the Edomites. He is also the grandfather of Amalek. According to the Book of Genesis, Amalek was the son of Eliphaz and his concubine Timna. Eliphaz was the first-born son of Esau by his wife Adah. Amalek is considered the ancestor of Amalekites. Are the Amalekites...
Esau is considered the ancestor of the Edomites. He is also the grandfather of Amalek. According to the Book of Genesis, Amalek was the son of Eliphaz and his concubine Timna. Eliphaz was the first-born son of Esau by his wife Adah. Amalek is considered the ancestor of Amalekites. Are the Amalekites and Edomites different names for the same tribe? Or are the Edomites a different tribe with a separate lineage to Esau?
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