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What is the Biblical basis for the idea of Baptism as a public commitment to the faith?
It's a common trope among craedobaptists that the purpose of baptism is in order to make a public commitment to the Christian faith. For example, here's an excerpt from a *GotQuestions.org* [article on baptism:][1] > Christian baptism is the means by which a person makes a public profession of faith...
It's a common trope among craedobaptists that the purpose of baptism is in order to make a public commitment to the Christian faith. For example, here's an excerpt from a *GotQuestions.org* article on baptism:
> Christian baptism is the means by which a person makes a public profession of faith and discipleship. In the waters of baptism, a person says, wordlessly, “I confess faith in Christ; Jesus has cleansed my soul from sin, and I now have a new life of sanctification.”
It's the only paragraph on the article without a Biblical citation (other than the summary paragraph at the end). I'm curious what the Biblical basis for the idea of "public profession" being associated with Baptism. *Please note I am specifically asking about the association of **public** profession with baptism, not about craedobaptism generally.*
(As context, I recently returned to Lutheranism after several years as a Baptist. Even while I was a Baptist, I never felt like I understood the basis for connection of public profession of faith to baptism.)
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Is Baptism not "complete" until after death?
At a Protestant funeral the other day, we were told that the sacrament of Baptism is not complete until after death. I found that this was Luther's position: “This sign of Baptism, the dying or drowning of sin is not fulfilled completely in this life." Is this not contrary to the Catholic teaching o...
At a Protestant funeral the other day, we were told that the sacrament of Baptism is not complete until after death. I found that this was Luther's position: “This sign of Baptism, the dying or drowning of sin is not fulfilled completely in this life."
Is this not contrary to the Catholic teaching on Baptism?
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is a Christening a standard part of an adult baptism in the CofE?
Some time ago, I attended a friend's baptism. After they had done the baptism, the vicar then moved on to do a christening, or 'CHRIST-en-ing' as they called it. I've never seen an adult being christened before. I just wondered if this was normal in the CofE?
Some time ago, I attended a friend's baptism.
After they had done the baptism, the vicar then moved on to do a christening,
or 'CHRIST-en-ing' as they called it. I've never seen an adult being christened before.
I just wondered if this was normal in the CofE?
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Was there a period in the history when all who believed in Christ allowed infant baptism?
[Martin Luther][1] lived from 1483 – 1546 and [John Calvin][2] from 1509 – 1564. Both thse men wrote about the importance of infant baptism which can be read in The [Large Catechism][3] by Martin Luther & [Institutes of the Christian Religion][4] by John Calvin Was there a period in the history when...
Martin Luther lived from 1483 – 1546 and John Calvin from 1509 – 1564. Both thse men wrote about the importance of infant baptism which can be read in The Large Catechism by Martin Luther & Institutes of the Christian Religion by John Calvin
Was there a period in the history when all who believed in Christ allowed infant baptism? If it is true who or which sect started/revived "only credo baptism" procedure?
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Reasons against childhood baptism
There is a belief that baptism (in Christianity) should be done later on life (e.g., adulthood), rather than in infancy. However, I do not see any reasonable (?) reason to NOT perform the baptism in infancy. One of the major drawbacks of credobaptism (the way that I understand things) is that the pe...
There is a belief that baptism (in Christianity) should be done later on life (e.g., adulthood), rather than in infancy.
However, I do not see any reasonable (?) reason to NOT perform the baptism in infancy. One of the major drawbacks of credobaptism (the way that I understand things) is that the person is deprived of the Holy Spirit two-fold: though the lack of baptism itself, and through the ban for communion (baptism being a major prerequisite for the communion).
So, shortly: what is inherently bad about baptizing infants?
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How would a baptist respond to the objection that if a child cannot be baptised, neither can an intellectually disabled adult?
Some Christian denominations reject infant baptism, usually on the grounds that young children cannot profess their faith, or understand the significance of baptism. It logically follows from this that an intellectually disabled adult who can't profess faith or understand baptism should not be bapti...
Some Christian denominations reject infant baptism, usually on the grounds that young children cannot profess their faith, or understand the significance of baptism. It logically follows from this that an intellectually disabled adult who can't profess faith or understand baptism should not be baptised, either. This is obviously problematic: life in Christ is meant to be open to all. How might a baptist respond?
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What Exactly was The Baptist Saying?
[John the Baptist][1] is a central figure in Christianity. Sent by God as shown by the prophets, he prepared the way of the Lord, the way of Jesus Christ (Malachi 3:1, Mt 3:3, 11:10). John was of the priestly Levitical tribe in the order of Abijah, being born of Zechariah and Elizabeth, both of whom...
John the Baptist is a central figure in Christianity. Sent by God as shown by the prophets, he prepared the way of the Lord, the way of Jesus Christ (Malachi 3:1, Mt 3:3, 11:10).
John was of the priestly Levitical tribe in the order of Abijah, being born of Zechariah and Elizabeth, both of whom were of Levi (1 Ch 24:10, Luke 1:5).
When John was preaching and baptizing, it is important to note for this question, he did so apart and away from the temple in Jerusalem. He preached in the wilderness. He baptized in the Jordan. (See Mt. 3:1, Mar 1:4.) The point is he did this without reference to the Levitical system of confession of sin and sacrifice. (See Lev 4, 23, etc.)
With these things in mind, from a Trinitarian position, what exactly was John the Baptist preaching apart from the temple system when he said repent?
Repent means change your mind. Metanoeo, Strong's G3340, to think differently, to reconsider.
How would this change prepare the way of the Lord? How would it make straight His paths?
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Can "Believer's Baptism" be found in the Early Church?
I was curious about all of your thoughts on the idea of "Believer's Baptism" found in the Early Church. For those who don't know, "Believer's Baptism" is the view that people who have put their faith in Christ are allowed to be baptized I was curious if anyone on this platform can show me Early Chur...
I was curious about all of your thoughts on the idea of "Believer's Baptism" found in the Early Church. For those who don't know, "Believer's Baptism" is the view that people who have put their faith in Christ are allowed to be baptized
I was curious if anyone on this platform can show me Early Church evidence to support this claim. I am aware of Tertullian had his own take on this belief, but not at the exact match as the main purpose of this idea. So, I was wondering if anyone can show Early Church proof of "Beliver's Baptism."
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Did the Holy Spirit move into Jesus during and after His baptism for the first time?
The Gospels record that at Jesus’ baptism, the Holy Spirit descended on Him like a dove (Matthew 3:16, Mark 1:10, Luke 3:22, John 1:32). Immediately afterward, we read that the Spirit led Him into the wilderness to be tempted (Matthew 4:1, Mark 1:12, Luke 4:1). Does this mean that the Holy Spirit en...
The Gospels record that at Jesus’ baptism, the Holy Spirit descended on Him like a dove (Matthew 3:16, Mark 1:10, Luke 3:22, John 1:32). Immediately afterward, we read that the Spirit led Him into the wilderness to be tempted (Matthew 4:1, Mark 1:12, Luke 4:1).
Does this mean that the Holy Spirit entered or moved into Jesus only at His baptism, and then guided Him into the wilderness? Or should the descent of the Spirit be understood differently, since Luke 1:35 indicates that Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit and therefore already had a unique relationship with Him before baptism?
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Bible verses on Pouring Baptism
I was just hoping that some of you could help find bible stories or scripture that supports the view of Pouring Baptism.
I was just hoping that some of you could help find bible stories or scripture that supports the view of Pouring Baptism.
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Pouring Baptism in the Early Church?
Wanted to ask if there are any historical record (Besides the Bible) that shows that pouring baptism was a common church teaching and/or practice?
Wanted to ask if there are any historical record (Besides the Bible) that shows that pouring baptism was a common church teaching and/or practice?
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When did the practice of naked baptism begin and when did it fall out of fashion?
According to St. John Chrysostom in his [*Baptismal Instruction* 11.28](https://archive.org/details/20191212st.johnchrysostombaptismalinstructions/page/n171/mode/2up?view=theater): > After stripping you of your robe, the priest leads you down into the flowing waters. But why naked? He reminds you of...
According to St. John Chrysostom in his [*Baptismal Instruction* 11.28](https://archive.org/details/20191212st.johnchrysostombaptismalinstructions/page/n171/mode/2up?view=theater) :
> After stripping you of your robe, the priest leads you down into the flowing waters. But why naked? He reminds you of your former nakedness, when you were in paradise and not ashamed.
When did this practice originate? It doesn’t seem to be in the [*Didache*](https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0714.htm) . Further, when did it end?
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Why didn't water baptism cause the Holy Spirit to indwell the disciples at Ephesus in Acts 19?
In Acts 19:1–7, Paul meets some disciples in Ephesus who had received only the baptism of John. After explaining the gospel more fully, he baptizes them in the name of the Lord Jesus. However, it’s only after Paul lays hands on them that the Holy Spirit comes upon them: >“When they heard this, they...
In Acts 19:1–7, Paul meets some disciples in Ephesus who had received only the baptism of John. After explaining the gospel more fully, he baptizes them in the name of the Lord Jesus. However, it’s only after Paul lays hands on them that the Holy Spirit comes upon them:
>“When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.” (Acts 19:5–6, KJV)
Given that in many parts of the New Testament (e.g., Acts 2:38, Romans 8:9), the Holy Spirit is associated with baptism and repentance, why didn’t the Spirit come upon these disciples immediately upon their Christian baptism?
What theological reasons might explain this sequence — baptism first, and then the coming of the Spirit only after the laying on of hands?
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Receiving the Holy Spirit after conversion Acts 8:14–17
How would [Southern] Baptist (SBC) churches explain Acts 8:14–17 in the giving of the Holy Spirit after initial conversion or belief? It had always been my understanding that the argument was the Holy Spirit was given to each believer at the moment of faith. Are we indwelt by the Spirit when we beli...
How would [Southern] Baptist (SBC) churches explain Acts 8:14–17 in the giving of the Holy Spirit after initial conversion or belief? It had always been my understanding that the argument was the Holy Spirit was given to each believer at the moment of faith.
Are we indwelt by the Spirit when we believe and if so why were the apostles needing to pray for them to receive Him?
>Acts 8:14–17
14 Now when the apostles at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent to them Peter and John, 15 who came down and prayed for them that they might receive the Holy Spirit, 16 for he had not yet fallen on any of them, but they had only been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 17 Then they laid their hands on them and they received the Holy Spirit. ESV, © 2001
14 Now when the apostles at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent to them Peter and John, 15 who came down and prayed for them that they might receive the Holy Spirit, 16 for he had not yet fallen on any of them, but they had only been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 17 Then they laid their hands on them and they received the Holy Spirit. ESV, © 2001
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How to become a Christian in a non-traditional way without a priest?
I live in a place where I can't find anyone to baptize me. Can I become a Christian on my own?
I live in a place where I can't find anyone to baptize me. Can I become a Christian on my own?
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Was John 13:9 ever used to justify baptism by effusion on body parts other than the head?
Was [John 13:9][1] ("Simon Peter saith to him: Lord, not only my feet, but also my hands and my head.") ever used to justify baptism by effusion on other body parts than the head? [1]: https://drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drl&bk=50&ch=13&l=9-#x
Was John 13:9 ("Simon Peter saith to him: Lord, not only my feet, but also my hands and my head.") ever used to justify baptism by effusion on other body parts than the head?
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Orthodoxy: Does baptism grant dispensations from vows previously made as a protestant?
The title is pretty self explanatory. I have made some vows during psychotic episodes from when I was an emotionally charged and immature protestant many years ago. I was recently just now received into the Holy Russian Orthodox Church. Does virtue of baptism grant me dispensation from my previous v...
The title is pretty self explanatory. I have made some vows during psychotic episodes from when I was an emotionally charged and immature protestant many years ago. I was recently just now received into the Holy Russian Orthodox Church. Does virtue of baptism grant me dispensation from my previous vows? (Note: Never married/divorced.)
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What are the tongues of angels in comparison to the tongues of men?
>Though I speak with the tongues of men *and of angels*, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. (1st Corinthians 13:1 KJV) Is there a Greek or Hebrew root wording to signify that the "tongues of angels" are the tongues heard spoken by Pentecostals, Oneness Apostol...
>Though I speak with the tongues of men *and of angels*, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
(1st Corinthians 13:1 KJV)
Is there a Greek or Hebrew root wording to signify that the "tongues of angels" are the tongues heard spoken by Pentecostals, Oneness Apostolics, and other types of similar Christians?
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What is the basic difference between “federal vision” theology and traditional views on paedobaptism?
I’ve been trying to see how “federal vision” is different than traditional defenses of paedobaptism. It seems pretty unclear to me, but multiple Presbyterian denominations have rejected “federal vision,” so there must be something questionable about it.
I’ve been trying to see how “federal vision” is different than traditional defenses of paedobaptism. It seems pretty unclear to me, but multiple Presbyterian denominations have rejected “federal vision,” so there must be something questionable about it.
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What is the Roman Catholic position on ex-Roman Catholics who have later been "saved" in an evangelical sense?
> As in the case of Baptism and Confirmation this share in Christ's office is granted once for all. the sacrament of Holy Orders, like the other two, confers an indelible spiritual character and cannot be repeated or conferred temporarily (Catechism of the Catholic Church, 1582) A [1954 Time magazin...
> As in the case of Baptism and Confirmation this share in Christ's office is granted once for all. the sacrament of Holy Orders, like the other two, confers an indelible spiritual character and cannot be repeated or conferred temporarily (Catechism of the Catholic Church, 1582)
A 1954 Time magazine article citing Rev. Daniel A. Poling estimated that, in the decade prior, as many as 4 million Catholics converted to Protestantism. This is from a 2015 Pew research article on "faith switching":
> One-in-five people who were raised Catholic now say they have no religious affiliation, while 10% identify with evangelical denominations, 5% with mainline denominations and smaller numbers with other faiths.
My question is: What is the Catholic view of those very many (multiple millions) of Baptized and Confirmed Roman Catholics who have later (in adult life) had the experience of being saved in the evangelical sense?
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Definition: Evangelicals believe that salvation is a personal and transformative experience that involves a "born-again" encounter with Jesus Christ. This experience is considered a passage from spiritual death to spiritual life. It encompasses all the abiding and immediate effects (albeit some of the language is different) that are supposed to have been conferred in Catholic Baptism and Confirmation, especially the immediate results (copied from this question ), such as:
Abiding Effects
Baptism: Incorporates us into Christ and his Church
Baptism: Capacity to receive other sacraments
Baptism: God's life, the life of the Holy Spirit
Confirmation: Configuration to Christ's priesthood
Confirmation: seals our souls like armor so that we can be knights in combat for Christ
Immediate Results
Baptism: Forgiveness of sin
Baptism: Bestowal of Sanctifying Grace
Baptism: Infusion of the Supernatural Virtues
Baptism: Infusion of the Gifts of the Holy Spirit
Baptism: Conferral of Actual Graces
Confirmation: Grace of mature, Christian witness
Confirmation: Grace of spiritual soldiery
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