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Church Fathers on life beyond the earth?
Are there any [church fathers][1] or medieval Christian writers who gave their opinion on [extraterrestrial lives][2]? [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Fathers [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraterrestrial_life
Are there any church fathers or medieval Christian writers who gave their opinion on extraterrestrial lives ?
Wenura
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What is an overview of Christian views on alien appearances and abductions?
[Alien abductions](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_abduction), [close encounters](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close_encounter) and [UFO sightings](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_reported_UFO_sightings) have been widely reported by many individuals around the world. Many self-proclaimed...
[Alien abductions](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_abduction) , [close encounters](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close_encounter) and [UFO sightings](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_reported_UFO_sightings) have been widely reported by many individuals around the world. Many self-proclaimed alien abductees and first-hand eyewitnesses of close encounters have testified to this effect. For instance, the YouTube Channel [UFO HUB](https://www.youtube.com/c/UFOHub/videos) hosts multiple interviews with such people. But beyond eyewitness accounts and anecdotes, on a more serious note, the UFO phenomenon in particular has been deemed worthy of a more rigorous evaluation, as evidenced by the [Pentagon UFO videos](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagon_UFO_videos) and the [U.S. Intelligence UFO Report](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFO_Report_(U.S._Intelligence)) .
What is an overview of Christian views on alien appearances and abductions? Do most Christian denominations and organizations tend to take an official position on this issue?
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What is an overview of the schools of thought regarding the soteriological status of alien life forms?
What is an overview of the various opinions on whether alien life forms are saved and can go to heaven? I would accept the idea that this has not been substantially discussed as an answer if that is the case. However I have found that there is some opinion on [this within the Jehovah's witness commu...
What is an overview of the various opinions on whether alien life forms are saved and can go to heaven?
I would accept the idea that this has not been substantially discussed as an answer if that is the case. However I have found that there is some opinion on this within the Jehovah's witness community and there is evidence that the Pope would baptise aliens suggesting that the Catholic church must have some view on the matter.
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If there were sentient aliens, would Jesus be their messiah also?
Let us suppose that there were aliens, that like us are gifted with souls and free will. Would they have their own alien messiah, or would Jesus be their messiah?
Let us suppose that there were aliens, that like us are gifted with souls and free will.
Would they have their own alien messiah, or would Jesus be their messiah?
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Does the Pope have the authority to baptize aliens (martians)?
Does the Pope have the moral authority to baptize Martians? Or any power from the bible? This is the article: > Pope Francis says he would baptise aliens: 'Who are we to close doors?' Pontiff made the out-of-this-world pledge during homily on acceptance > Adam Withnall @adamwithnall Tuesday 13 May 2...
Does the Pope have the moral authority to baptize Martians? Or any power from the bible?
This is the article:
> Pope Francis says he would baptise aliens: 'Who are we to close doors?'
Pontiff made the out-of-this-world pledge during homily on acceptance
> Adam Withnall @adamwithnall Tuesday 13 May 2014 08:47 BST
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/pope-francis-says-he-would-baptise-aliens-9360632.html
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According to Catholicism, is our world the only one?
Is this world the only one? Might God have created other worlds like this that are independent, having their own history? I don't mean another planet, but a whole other universe. What would be the biblical bases for or against this possibility? What does Catholicism teach?
Is this world the only one? Might God have created other worlds like this that are independent, having their own history? I don't mean another planet, but a whole other universe.
What would be the biblical bases for or against this possibility? What does Catholicism teach?
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Can An Extraterrestrial Be A Christian?
In a spin-off of a law forum question ("[Can an extra terrestrial be legally adopted?][1]"), I ask: "Can an extraterrestrial be a Christian?" Like all short questions, however, it might have a long answer and implies answers to a lot of subordinate questions. # Whose Christian Doctrine? I don't beli...
In a spin-off of a law forum question ("Can an extra terrestrial be legally adopted? "), I ask:
"Can an extraterrestrial be a Christian?"
Like all short questions, however, it might have a long answer and implies answers to a lot of subordinate questions.
# Whose Christian Doctrine?
I don't believe that this particular doctrinal question is denomination specific because I think that the core parts of the answer pre-date doctrinal schism in Christianity and weren't addressed in later diversification of Christian doctrines. But, to the extent that it is relevant, I would be most interested in Protestant doctrine, and to the extent that there is a distinction, with Methodist doctrine.
This is because having grown up in small town rural Kansas, if Superman and his parents were affiliated with a Christian church in the early 20th century when he arrived on Earth, it would probably have been a Methodist church (I'm not sure that the modern United Methodist Church denomination existed in the early 20th century, but if it didn't it would probably have eventually absorbed the church in question).
For what it is worth, so far as I know, the comic book canon about Superman doesn't actually resolve the question of whether Superman was religiously affiliated one way or the other and simply abstains from discussing the issue (I may be wrong about that , but it doesn't really matter for these purposes). But, I am assuming for the purposes of this question that his parents were devout Methodists and tried to raise their adopted child in their own faith and that Superman even after discovering his true origins wanted to be a Christian and a Methodist.
Thus, this question is quite distinct from the question of the afterlife of non-Christians, because in this case we are talking about a specific individual who wants to be a Christian and is familiar with Christianity, rather than a heathen (who has never been exposed to Christianity since the "Great Commission" has not been fulfilled) or a heretic (who has been exposed to little "o" orthodox Christianity and rejected it).
For what it is worth, the Roman Catholic church has analyzed this issue in some depth for hundreds of years and reached a generally strongly pro-ET conclusion. But, perhaps there is something in Methodist doctrine, or in the Anglican doctrine from which Methodism emerged, or the broad Protestant movement that gave rise to the Anglican church, that might lead it in a different direction than the Roman Catholic Church on this point.
# Yes. Seriously. Why Care?
I elaborate on and frame this question at some length below to confirm that it is a legitimately serious question about Christian doctrine asked with an open mind, and to suggest some of the issues underlying the question that might not be obvious if it was stated in unelaborated form, as well as to suggest a branch of Christianity whose opinion matters most, to the extent that there is a diversity of opinion in Christian doctrine on the question between different branches of Christianity.
It is easiest to answer unusual questions when you know why they are asked.
While this question does have a rather fanciful dimension to it and no current direct application, it isn't a joke either. I know that it has receive some serious theological treatment in Christian seminaries and from Christian theological thinkers. I have seen the question addressed by theologians in a number of religious denominations both Christian and non-Christian in my life but don't have any references at hand and most were either in print newspapers or audiovisual formats that I would have no means of linking to (and I never followed any of the discussions to their conclusion to see how they came out on the issue).
And, of course, even if this is a question that never will and never can come up because humans are the only living sentient beings with souls in the universe, how one goes about thinking about an answer has intrinsic value because it provides a means to think about the important elements of what Christian doctrine has to say about what it means to be human and what it means to be Christian, which could also have applications to other issues relating to life and death and how humans should treat non-humans.
The law question focused on a particular extraterrestrial, "Superman", assuming that someone with his characteristics existed in what was otherwise the real world, and this one basically does too, although perhaps this level of specificity isn't as important for a theological answer as it is for a legal one (where detailed context always matters).
Incidentally, the theological issue isn't entirely irrelevant to the legal issue, because denying person status to someone who is considered by a particular religious denomination of which the someone is a member that considers that someone to be a person potentially has First Amendment free exercise and establishment clause implications that would favor treating the someone recognized as a person by a church as a person under the law.
# Subordinate Questions That May Be Relevant Or Necessary In An Answer.
### Who Is A Christian?
Right at the heart of the question is the more general question, "Who is a Christian?", and you really can't answer it without having an answer to that.
What makes you a Christian and not just someone who knows something about Christianity or agrees with some of what Christianity has to say? What disqualifies you from being a Christian?
I assume that Methodists have an answer to these questions, but having never been one myself, I don't know that answer.
### Does The *Scope Of The New Covenant* Matter?
I don't discount the possibility that Christian doctrine makes Superman's status as a *homo sapien* irrelevant given that God had jurisdiction over the whole universe, although that in part depends upon the question of whether the *New Covenant* between God and humanity as a result of the sacrifice of Jesus was specific to Earth humans only or was more universal than that.
Do Superman's people need their own Messiah, or can they share ours?
### Is There An Answer In *Christology*?
One relevant point in this analysis and discussion is that another individual with some mysterious form of extraterrestrial paternity, Jesus, is definitively "fully human" in addition to being fully divine, under the doctrines of all significant extant denominations of Christianity of which I am aware (Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Protestants, Mormons and IIRC, Ethiopian Orthodox as well), although a few almost dead heresies that died out in the Roman era (e.g. Gnostic Christianity) took a different position historically (other heretics took the position that Jesus was fully human but was not any more divine than any other human interpreting his status as "son of God" either metaphorically or as a statement about what it means to be human or what it means to be human who supports God as opposed to rebelling against God).
Of course, maybe Jesus is a "dual citizen" of Heaven and Earth who also got a vistor's visa to Hell, while Superman doesn't have an analog to Mary, mother of Jesus, only to Joseph, husband of Mary mother of Jesus, so maybe the analogy doesn't apply.
### Does It Matter If He Has A *Soul*?
One closely related question to who can be a Christian is "who has a soul?"
The issues posed by this question could have been explored historically in theological discourse in related questions such as "do animals have souls?", "can angels be Christians?", and "can demons be Christians?".
Many people seem to think that having a soul and being a Christian are close corollaries of each other based upon the treatment this issue has had in fiction.
Another similar issue was addressed in a science fiction setting in a series of teen fiction books by S.J. Kincaid, starting with *The Diabolic * in which a genetically modified human who very much wants to be an adherent of the predominant faith (a fictional stand in for Christianity) is told by the clergy that she cannot because she doesn't have a soul.
Also along the same lines, a key issue in the *Twilight* series by Stephanie Meyer (herself a Mormon, but explored in the books from the Anglican and Roman Catholic and Baptist perspectives held by the members of her vampire family before they were turned) is whether the belief of male protagonist and vampire Edward that he should not turn female protagonist and human Bella into a vampire, because this would cause her to lose her soul and be denied eternal salvation and by association her humanity, is well founded in Christian doctrine.
On the other hand, angels, demons and vampires have theological aspects to them that an extraterrestrial like Superman does not. Angels and demons have origins outside the dimension of Earth, while vampires are associated with witchcraft and/or demons.
But, Superman is just an ordinary sentient being from the same dimension as humans on Earth who just happens to be from out of town and can even produce children with Earth humans so is probably part of the same biological species as humans somehow, perhaps Created that way by God and wasn't really all that special on his home world. So, maybe it is obvious that he has a soul.
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What does it mean that God's wrath is infinite and what is its relation to existence of life on other planets?
I heard on the first episode of Cosmos that astronomer [Giordano Bruno](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giordano_Bruno) was punished because he believed there are other planets with life on them. The Roman inquisition sentenced him to execution because they thought this belief violated the fact that '...
I heard on the first episode of Cosmos that astronomer [Giordano Bruno](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giordano_Bruno) was punished because he believed there are other planets with life on them. The Roman inquisition sentenced him to execution because they thought this belief violated the fact that 'God's wrath is not eternal'. I would be appreciate it if you provide me a resource to read about it, or give me an explanation. I am not Christian and this idea is so new to me.
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Has the Catholic church ever voiced its view on the possibility of aliens' existence?
Has the Catholic church ever acknowledged such a possibility as not contradicting the Bible? Or has it once said that the whole idea of aliens is absolutely non-Biblical as the humans are the center of God's creation or something like that? So, once again: Has the Catholic church ever voiced its vie...
Has the Catholic church ever acknowledged such a possibility as not contradicting the Bible? Or has it once said that the whole idea of aliens is absolutely non-Biblical as the humans are the center of God's creation or something like that?
So, once again: Has the Catholic church ever voiced its view on the possibility of aliens' existence?
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Do any denominations have official doctrine regarding humans on other planets?
The recent discovery of an [Earth-like planet][1] caused me to wonder: do any Christian denominations have official doctrine regarding humans on other planets? If so, what is the doctrine? Related: [Does the Bible make any allusions to life on other planets?][2] [1]: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/scienc...
The recent discovery of an Earth-like planet caused me to wonder: do any Christian denominations have official doctrine regarding humans on other planets? If so, what is the doctrine?
Related: Does the Bible make any allusions to life on other planets?
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Is the Catholic Church actively preparing for the contact with a highly advanced sentient alien species?
> According to constitutional and public interest lawyer and educator Daniel Sheehan, the Catholic Church is actively preparing for the discovery of and contact with a highly advanced sentient alien species. He spoke today at Contact in the Desert 2015, a landmark UFO conference in Joshua Tree in So...
> According to constitutional and public interest lawyer and educator Daniel Sheehan, the Catholic Church is actively preparing for the discovery of and contact with a highly advanced sentient alien species. He spoke today at Contact in the Desert 2015, a landmark UFO conference in Joshua Tree in Southern California, where he described what will be a historic papal encyclical decree calling for nothing less than the disassembly of the power structures that are destroying our civilization and preventing us from joining an enlightened galactic partnership.
Pope Francis and Catholic Church Are Preparing For Alien Contact - The Ghost Diaries
Is the Catholic Church really actively preparing for the discovery of and contact with a highly advanced sentient alien species? What is the evidence that suggests this?
Elberich Schneider
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Could Jesus have extraterrestrial brothers or sisters?
According to Sacre Scriptures, Gospel, Catechesis, Catechism and so on, could Jesus have had, or could have, one or more brothers or sisters? I'm not referring to terrestrial brothers or sisters who lived during the time Jesus has lived on the earth, which, however, would be in disagreement with the...
According to Sacre Scriptures, Gospel, Catechesis, Catechism and so on, could Jesus have had, or could have, one or more brothers or sisters?
I'm not referring to terrestrial brothers or sisters who lived during the time Jesus has lived on the earth, which, however, would be in disagreement with the dogma of the Virgin Mary(1), but to brothers or sisters that lived on other planets where other kinds of extraterrestrial beings live or lived.
Or, in case, did God send always Jesus, the same son who went on the earth, on these planets?
I'm not looking for an opinion based answer, but for an answer that describes the position of diffrent christian churchs on this matter(2).
(1) However, there would be the problem to exclude the circumstance that Joseph, the 'father' of Jesus, did not have other son/s with other women.
(2) If it is unclear, the matter is what the position of christian churches is about extraterrestrial civilizations and their need to be saved.
Elberich Schneider
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What does the Bible say about aliens? Did God create any life outside Earth?
> **Duplicate of:** > [Does the Bible make any allusions to life on other planets?](https://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/1051/does-the-bible-make-any-allusions-to-life-on-other-planets) God created us in His own image, we can be proud that we are His privileged creations in this Earth. B...
> **Duplicate of:**
> [Does the Bible make any allusions to life on other planets?](https://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/1051/does-the-bible-make-any-allusions-to-life-on-other-planets)
God created us in His own image, we can be proud that we are His privileged creations in this Earth. But are we unique in this universe?
I believe that God has kept rest of the Universe for us to praise His wisdom and wonders and to praise his creations which are limitless. We will not be able achieve/find anything beyond this fascination. Even if there are 'people' in some other galaxies, we do not have the privileges to find them.
But I know my faith related to this has no base.
So, what does the Bible say about this? Any support to my belief?
Benny
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Are these Bible verses referencing UFOs?
[Ezekiel 1:16](http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel%201:16&version=KJV): > This was the appearance and structure of the wheels: They sparkled like topaz, and all four looked alike. Each appeared to be made like a wheel intersecting a wheel. [Exodus 13:22](http://www.biblegateway.com/p...
[Ezekiel 1:16](http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel%201:16&version=KJV) :
> This was the appearance and structure of the wheels: They sparkled like topaz, and all four looked alike. Each appeared to be made like a wheel intersecting a wheel.
[Exodus 13:22](http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%2013:22&version=NIV) :
> Neither the pillar of cloud by day nor the pillar of fire by night left its place in front of the people.
[2 Kings 2:1](http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Kings%202:1&version=NIV) :
> When the LORD was about to take Elijah up to heaven in a whirlwind, Elijah and Elisha were on their way from Gilgal.
Do these, or any other verses in the Bible, refer to UFOs, in the sense of extra-terrestrial, or extra-dimensional vehicles?
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Did God ever talk about his other creations?
I have always been a lover of all things "Science", space, other life forms, etc. I excelled in Science in School but a few years ago I started questioning things and now believe that "Science" and God _can_ coexist - something that most people I've spoken to disagree with. Anyway. There are other p...
I have always been a lover of all things "Science", space, other life forms, etc. I excelled in Science in School but a few years ago I started questioning things and now believe that "Science" and God _can_ coexist - something that most people I've spoken to disagree with.
Anyway. There are other planets out there, we all know that. But does Life exist on any of those planets? Does God ever mention anything about his _other_ creations (outside of Earth)?
When we look at Earth from outside of it (correct me if I'm wrong), we can see the lights all across the world. But when we look at other planets, there are no lights. This alone leads me to believe that there are no other forms of life on planets that we can see - unless they are completely different from us and are of colors that our eyes cannot see, or is it that God made it so that forms of life on one planet cannot communicate with or see forms of life on another planet?
I would very much like this to be a discussion but since that's not appropriate for this website I would like to know if there is anything in the scriptures about any of this?
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Does the Bible make any allusions to life on other planets?
What, if anything, does the Bible say either supporting the theory of life on other planets, or suggesting that there is none?
What, if anything, does the Bible say either supporting the theory of life on other planets, or suggesting that there is none?
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