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Is usury a form of extortion?
Is usury a form of extortion? St. Paul lists extortion among the mortal sins in [1 Cor. 6:10][1]: "…nor extortioners (άρπαγες, *rapaces*, "the rapacious"), shall possess the kingdom of God." [Ex. 22:25][2] relates extortion and usury: "If thou lend money to any of my people that is poor, that dwelle...
Is usury a form of extortion? St. Paul lists extortion among the mortal sins in 1 Cor. 6:10 : "…nor extortioners (άρπαγες, *rapaces*, "the rapacious"), shall possess the kingdom of God." Ex. 22:25 relates extortion and usury: "If thou lend money to any of my people that is poor, that dwelleth with thee, thou shalt not be hard upon them as an extortioner [*exactor*], nor oppress them with usuries."
Geremia (42439 rep)
Jun 27, 2024, 09:51 PM • Last activity: Jun 28, 2024, 08:19 PM
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How is selling the use of a house not usury but selling the use of wine, separately from the wine, is?
St. Thomas Aquinas, [*Summa Theologica* II-II q. 78 a. 1][1] co., says that usury is to sell the use of a consumable good separately from the consumable good itself: >To take usury for money lent is unjust in itself, because this is to sell what does not exist, and this evidently leads to inequality...
St. Thomas Aquinas, *Summa Theologica* II-II q. 78 a. 1 co., says that usury is to sell the use of a consumable good separately from the consumable good itself: >To take usury for money lent is unjust in itself, because this is to sell what does not exist, and this evidently leads to inequality which is contrary to justice. In order to make this evident, we must observe that there are certain **things the use of which consists in their consumption**: thus we consume wine when we use it for drink and we consume wheat when we use it for food. Wherefore in such like things the use of the thing must not be reckoned apart from the thing itself, and whoever is granted the use of the thing, is granted the thing itself and for this reason, to lend things of this kin is to transfer the ownership. Accordingly if a man wanted to sell wine separately from the use of the wine, he would be selling the same thing twice, or he would be selling what does not exist, wherefore he would evidently commit a sin of injustice. On like manner he commits an injustice who lends wine or wheat, and asks for double payment, viz. one, the return of the thing in equal measure, the other, the price of the use, which is called usury. > >On the other hand, there are **things the use of which does n̲o̲t̲ consist in their consumption**: thus to use a house is to dwell in it, not to destroy it. Wherefore in such things both may be granted: for instance, one man may hand over to another the ownership of his house while reserving to himself the use of it for a time, or vice versa, he may grant the use of the house, while retaining the ownership. For this reason a man may lawfully make a charge for the use of his house, and, besides this, revendicate the house from the person to whom he has granted its use, as happens in renting and letting a house. But that explanation makes no sense to me. Just because the use of wine consists in its destruction, I do not see how this implies that the sale of the use of wine also implies the sale of the property itself. I see no significant difference between using a house as a dwelling and using wine for drinking. If the sale of the use of the house can be separated from the sale of the property itself, then the sale of the use of the wine can also be separated from the sale of the property itself.
Guilherme de Souza (155 rep)
Dec 5, 2022, 09:20 AM • Last activity: Apr 12, 2024, 02:43 PM
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What is the Church's traditional understanding of usury and has it changed?
From scripture, it would seem that the taking of interest on any loan is unjust (Leviticus 25:36–37). Most people are also familiar with the fact that usury used to be condemned by Christians. But, it would not seem right that the Church would condemn something as intrinsically evil and then later r...
From scripture, it would seem that the taking of interest on any loan is unjust (Leviticus 25:36–37). Most people are also familiar with the fact that usury used to be condemned by Christians. But, it would not seem right that the Church would condemn something as intrinsically evil and then later reverse that stance and say it is not intrinsically evil. And, today, no one frets about taking interest on loans as a moral issue. Therefore, has the Church's understanding of usury changed, or have we merely been ignoring the grave sin of usury? Is usury more nuanced than what we are typically taught (the taking of interest and/or the taking of an unjustly large interest on a loan)?
jaredad7 (5123 rep)
Feb 11, 2022, 03:56 PM • Last activity: Mar 13, 2022, 11:03 PM
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Why is usury considered a bad practice?
If I'm not wrong usury in its original biblical definition means charging **any amount** of money for lending money. So if you charge any percentage greater than zero as interest rate it must be a sin. Now my question is why is it considered a sin in Christianity? Does Christianity have a more techn...
If I'm not wrong usury in its original biblical definition means charging **any amount** of money for lending money. So if you charge any percentage greater than zero as interest rate it must be a sin. Now my question is why is it considered a sin in Christianity? Does Christianity have a more technical and less non-religious answer for that? Like does usury hurt the economy of your country? Or what? I'm trying to understand if Christianity has an explanation to why usury is a bad practice and that's why I want a technical and non-religious answer.
Somanna (141 rep)
Jul 11, 2021, 07:54 AM • Last activity: Jul 17, 2021, 10:12 AM
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Was charging interest on loans ever forbidden to laymen in the Eastern Orthodox Church? If so, when was this promulgated and when was it revoked?
According to [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usury#Church_councils), the First Council of Nicaea (325AD) forbade clergy, **but not laymen**, from charging interest on loans. Wikipedia also states that "later ecumenical councils applied this regulation to the laity", but the [reference](htt...
According to [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usury#Church_councils) , the First Council of Nicaea (325AD) forbade clergy, **but not laymen**, from charging interest on loans. Wikipedia also states that "later ecumenical councils applied this regulation to the laity", but the [reference](https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/004056399305400404) given shows this occurred only in Catholic councils after 1150AD. The Catholics had a Lateran III council in 1179, where they totally excommunicated anyone who charged interest. To me, this implies that before 1179, there had been no ecumenical council, Catholic or Orthodox, that prohibited usury among laymen. Assuming this Wikipedia article is comprehensive, it appears that no ecumenical council ever forbade the charging of interest among laymen. However the article appears to only give the Catholic side. --- My question: Did the Eastern Orthodox church as a whole (via an ecumenical council for example) or in part (via a local council for one synod, for example), ever condemn as a sin, which required repentance or even excommunication, the act of charging interest on loans among laymen?
Matthew Moisen (1253 rep)
Jan 2, 2021, 09:10 PM • Last activity: Apr 21, 2021, 03:52 AM
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