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Form in the formless realms
[Dependant Origination][1] declares that from Consciousness (Viññana) arises Nāma-Rūpa, not just Nāma. Therefore it is implied that even in formless realms the entities that exist there also have a form of some kind. Uddakka Ramaputta and Alara Kalama were most probably born in formless Br...
Dependant Origination declares that from Consciousness (Viññana) arises Nāma-Rūpa, not just Nāma. Therefore it is implied that even in formless realms the entities that exist there also have a form of some kind. Uddakka Ramaputta and Alara Kalama were most probably born in formless Brahma realms after their death. But Buddha didn't visit Alara-Kalama and Uddakka-Ramaputta which means that they couldn't understand the Dhamma which must have been a problem with the senses or something similar (My first question) because they already had superior mental ability to understand the Dhamma (MN 21 ), > Alara Kalama is wise, competent, intelligent. He has long had little > dust in his eyes. What if I were to teach him the Dhamma first? He > will quickly understand this Dhamma. Dust here implies the 5 hindrances . > This Uddaka Ramaputta is wise, competent, intelligent. He has long had > little dust in his eyes. What if I were to teach him the Dhamma first? > He will quickly understand this Dhamma. I would like to get an answer to either or both (if possible) of the below questions, **Question 1**: Why couldn't Buddha teach the Dhamma to Uddakka Ramaputta and Alara Kalama. **Question 2**: What is the difference in form between the Rūpa Lōka and Arūpa Loka.
Ravindu Dissanayake (398 rep)
Aug 8, 2020, 02:21 PM • Last activity: Aug 8, 2020, 05:21 PM
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Watching the breath during meditation is getting boring?
I am following meditations as taught by **Ajahn Brahm** in his book **Mindfulness, Bliss and Beyond.** I have almost reached to state of **Silent Present Moment Awareness.** The next stage is **Silent Present Moment Awareness of Breath**. Its been days I am watching the breath and its getting no whe...
I am following meditations as taught by **Ajahn Brahm** in his book **Mindfulness, Bliss and Beyond.** I have almost reached to state of **Silent Present Moment Awareness.** The next stage is **Silent Present Moment Awareness of Breath**. Its been days I am watching the breath and its getting no where. I get bored watching the breath. The next stage is supposed to be **Awareness of Beautiful Breath.** Thats not happening and its getting boring, even the meditation. **What to do when breath watching gets boring?**
The White Cloud (2420 rep)
Aug 8, 2020, 10:24 AM • Last activity: Aug 8, 2020, 03:03 PM
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What kind of pleasure is the one we get by pursuing Mathematical problems and solving them? Is it a kind of sensual pleasure?
We get pleasure and satisfaction by doing Mathematics. Thinking over math problems and solving them does give us some pleasure. According to Buddhism, what is this pleasure categorized as? A sensual pleasure ? Or is it like pleasure we get from Jhana?
We get pleasure and satisfaction by doing Mathematics. Thinking over math problems and solving them does give us some pleasure. According to Buddhism, what is this pleasure categorized as? A sensual pleasure ? Or is it like pleasure we get from Jhana?
ramana_k (245 rep)
Aug 7, 2020, 06:22 PM • Last activity: Aug 8, 2020, 01:30 PM
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Did Gautama Buddha endorse the caste system?
Did Gautama Buddha endorse the caste system? > [Buddhism: An Atheistic and Anti-Caste Religion? Modern Ideology and Historical Reality of the Ancient Indian Bauddha Dharma by Edmun Weber](http://web.uni-frankfurt.de/irenik/relkultur50.pdf) > Hans Wolfgang Schumann has statistically proven that almos...
Did Gautama Buddha endorse the caste system? > [Buddhism: An Atheistic and Anti-Caste Religion? Modern Ideology and Historical Reality of the Ancient Indian Bauddha Dharma by Edmun Weber](http://web.uni-frankfurt.de/irenik/relkultur50.pdf) > Hans Wolfgang Schumann has statistically proven that almost all of Buddha's disciples were high caste people and that the Brahmans comprised the majority of the Sangha. > Buddha tells about the earlier Buddhas in the so-called Mahapadana Suttanta- Great Sermon on the Legends.21 He refers to their membership of (high) caste as the first characteristic of their full enlightenment. According to this report the Buddhas belonged all to the high castes, to the Kshatriyas and Brahmans. Buddha says proudly about himself "And now I, the venerable and fully enlightened one, was born a warrior and have come from the caste of the warriors, O monks. > 21 Buddha - Die Lehre des Erhabenen. Aus dem Pali Kanon ausgewählt und übertragen von Paul Dahlke, München 1960. Also: > The Bodhisattvas appear only in two kinds of lineage, the one of the Brahmanas and of the warriors (Kshatriya). So my question is, did the Buddha endorse or uphold the Vedic caste system?
Supravat (51 rep)
Nov 2, 2018, 05:29 PM • Last activity: Aug 8, 2020, 08:31 AM
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Does the Buddhist text Alankarabuddhi still exist?
As I discuss in [this question](https://buddhism.stackexchange.com/q/7426/19), by far the most popular school of Hindu philosophy today is the Vedanta school, which is based on the philosophical portions of the Vedas. But in the time when Buddhism was at its peak popularity in India, the most popula...
As I discuss in [this question](https://buddhism.stackexchange.com/q/7426/19) , by far the most popular school of Hindu philosophy today is the Vedanta school, which is based on the philosophical portions of the Vedas. But in the time when Buddhism was at its peak popularity in India, the most popular school of Hindu philosophy was the Purva Mimamsa school, which was based on the ritualistic portions of the Vedas. Now one of the most famous Purva Mimasa philosophers was named Kumarila Bhatta, and in [this excerpt](http://gdurl.com/Is8P) from his work the Tantra Vartika, he argues that Hindus should not accept Buddhist texts as valid scripture, because Buddha was a violator of the Vedas: > Then again, we find that the Bauddha teachings were given by one who was a born Kshatriya; and as such, he transgressed the duties of his own class, in taking upon himself the work of taking and receiving presents (which are the monopoly of the Brahmanas); and hence how can we believe that true Dharma or Duty would be taught by one who has transgressed his own Dharma? It has been well said: "One who is found to be doing deeds opposed to a prosperous hereafter, should be shunned from a distance; because how can one who deceives himself offer any salutary advice to others?" > > Such transgression of Dharma by Buddha is clearly mentioned in **the Alankarabuddhi (a Bauddha work), where Buddha is represented as saying - "May all the pain proceeding from the sins due to the Iron Age, rest in me, and leave humanity at large absolutely free!"** And in connection with this his followers eulogise his virtues in the following strains: "For the sake of the well-being of humanity, He transgressed his own duties as a Kshatriya, and having taken up the duties of the Brahmana, he taught, even to the people outside the pale of Vedic religion, such truths relating to Dharma, as were not taught by Brahmanas who were unable to transgress the prohibition (of such teachings being imparted by outsiders); and thus prompted by his mercy to others, he even went to the length of transgressing his own Dharma!" And we actually find His followers behaving in a manner entirely at variance with the teachings of the Veda. I found the quote in bold interesting, because it seems reminiscent of the Christian notion that "Jesus died for our sins". So my question is, does the Buddhist text that Kumarila Bhatta is quoting from, the Alankarabuddhi, still exist? By the way, when the Alankarabiddhi quote says "Iron Age", that's an English translation of the Sanskrit term "Kali Yuga", which refers to the Hindu notion that we are currently living in an age of evil. Now I think only some sects of Buddhism share this Hindu belief, so that may help in finding this text.
Keshav Srinivasan (477 rep)
Jan 12, 2017, 05:49 AM • Last activity: Aug 7, 2020, 02:07 AM
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Does freedom from birth and death mean there is no freedom to experience birth and death without desire?
As I understand the cycle of birth and death produces suffering but ,once the truth is realized, there is no suffering ,so living in this world shouldn't be any longer a problem .So is freedom from birth and death here mean only that there is no binding to the cycle or that there is no longer a poss...
As I understand the cycle of birth and death produces suffering but ,once the truth is realized, there is no suffering ,so living in this world shouldn't be any longer a problem .So is freedom from birth and death here mean only that there is no binding to the cycle or that there is no longer a possibility of experiencing the cycle forever ?. This may induce another question if one can be reborn fully aware of the truth ,if that is no-longer a possibility then how can this be considered true freedom ?.
Omar Boshra (507 rep)
Aug 1, 2020, 02:37 PM • Last activity: Aug 6, 2020, 04:58 PM
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Tripitaka Section Numbering
Does anyone have a comprehensive side by side reference to Suttas numbering from different edition (PTS, VRI, etc.) of the Tripitaka? I have trouble with reconciliation of certain references to the Sutta names.
Does anyone have a comprehensive side by side reference to Suttas numbering from different edition (PTS, VRI, etc.) of the Tripitaka? I have trouble with reconciliation of certain references to the Sutta names.
Suminda Sirinath S. Dharmasena (37227 rep)
Sep 24, 2014, 05:27 PM • Last activity: Aug 6, 2020, 07:02 AM
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What happens if no beings choose to act on one's bad karma?
What happens if no beings choose to act on one's bad karma? Does one then hallucinate one's bad karma? *( By this I mean i.e. is there experiencing of hallucinations (or illusions) alongside things such as real pain? ).* E.g. What would have happened to Moggallāna if no being chose to attack him?
What happens if no beings choose to act on one's bad karma? Does one then hallucinate one's bad karma? *( By this I mean i.e. is there experiencing of hallucinations (or illusions) alongside things such as real pain? ).* E.g. What would have happened to Moggallāna if no being chose to attack him?
Angus (544 rep)
Nov 4, 2019, 11:41 PM • Last activity: Aug 5, 2020, 12:21 PM
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Chinese Dharmaguptaka jurisprudence with regards to homosexual seminarians
Has there been a recent monastic ruling amongst Dharmaguptaka monks in China & Hong Kong with regards to a policy of denying ordination to laymen who have lived homosexual lifestyles prior to cultivating the aspiration to go forth?
Has there been a recent monastic ruling amongst Dharmaguptaka monks in China & Hong Kong with regards to a policy of denying ordination to laymen who have lived homosexual lifestyles prior to cultivating the aspiration to go forth?
Caoimhghin (1164 rep)
Nov 13, 2018, 09:21 PM • Last activity: Aug 5, 2020, 10:02 AM
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How to deal with distractions during meditation?
When meditating on the breath, after a while the sensation of my eyes not being closed properly appeared. This then turns into vibrating, and my eyes feel like they are literally moving. I tried refocusing on the breath but this is a very difficult sensation to ignore. Does anyone have advice? Other...
When meditating on the breath, after a while the sensation of my eyes not being closed properly appeared. This then turns into vibrating, and my eyes feel like they are literally moving. I tried refocusing on the breath but this is a very difficult sensation to ignore. Does anyone have advice? Other sensations I feel are the opening of my eyes, if I do not pay attention to them. This sometimes happens, but mostly doesn't. This is also extremely distracting, as I feel like I should focus on keeping my eyes closed. Many thanks.
Danny (395 rep)
Aug 2, 2020, 11:33 AM • Last activity: Aug 4, 2020, 11:02 PM
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Do we have conventional knowledge of the present?
I read the discussion between Bhavaviveka and Buddhapalita, and there's a reference to "no cognition" (anupalabdhi) of emptiness, as liberative, though I forget which one of the two were supporting it. e.g. Garfield and Westerhoff in *Madhyamaka and Yogacara*: > The cognition of the ultimate nature...
I read the discussion between Bhavaviveka and Buddhapalita, and there's a reference to "no cognition" (anupalabdhi) of emptiness, as liberative, though I forget which one of the two were supporting it. e.g. Garfield and Westerhoff in *Madhyamaka and Yogacara*: > The cognition of the ultimate nature of things—their all being empty > of intrinsic nature—is nonconceptual because, there being nothing to > cognize, no cognition arises. Or Eckel in *To See the Buddha*: enter image description here And obviously the heart sutra includes (emphasis mine): > No suffering, no origination, > > no stopping, no path, *no cognition*, > > also no attainment with nothing to attain. ---------- Does anyone say that there is "no cognition" of *the present*, either at all times, or that only this "no cognition" has conventional validity? Or, can we have conventional knowledge of the present?
user2512
Feb 5, 2017, 04:02 PM • Last activity: Aug 4, 2020, 05:43 PM
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Is Dhamma-thinking considered wise attention?
According to [AN 5.73][1] (translated by Thanissaro Bhikkhu): > "Then there is the case where a monk takes the Dhamma as he has heard > & studied it and thinks about it, evaluates it, and examines it with > his intellect. He spends the day in Dhamma-thinking. He neglects > seclusion. He doesn't comm...
According to AN 5.73 (translated by Thanissaro Bhikkhu): > "Then there is the case where a monk takes the Dhamma as he has heard > & studied it and thinks about it, evaluates it, and examines it with > his intellect. He spends the day in Dhamma-thinking. He neglects > seclusion. He doesn't commit himself to internal tranquillity of > awareness. This is called a monk who is keen on thinking, not one who > dwells in the Dhamma. Another translation of AN 5.73 by Bhikkhu Sujato: > Furthermore, a mendicant thinks about and considers the teaching in > their heart, examining it with the mind as they learned and memorized > it. They spend their days thinking about that teaching. But they > neglect retreat, and are not committed to internal serenity of heart. > That mendicant is called one who thinks a lot, not one who lives by > the teaching. Is Dhamma-thinking considered *yoniso manasikara* or wise attention or appropriate attention? Please explain your answer. If yes, then why is it not useful, without internal tranquility of awareness (*cetosamatham*)? If no, then what is needed to upgrade Dhamma-thinking to wise attention? What is it missing?
ruben2020 (40846 rep)
May 17, 2020, 05:50 PM • Last activity: Aug 4, 2020, 04:39 PM
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What are the differences between sex cults and the tantric tradition?
What is the difference between sex cults, and the tantric tradition? I understand that the latter has a lot of tradition and ritual behind it And while there is a strict monastic code, I imagine, in the tantric tradition, monks are encouraged to have sex with their disciples. Furthermore, any claims...
What is the difference between sex cults, and the tantric tradition? I understand that the latter has a lot of tradition and ritual behind it And while there is a strict monastic code, I imagine, in the tantric tradition, monks are encouraged to have sex with their disciples. Furthermore, any claims that there is a direct lineage all the way back to our Buddha, Shakyamuni, is as doubtful as it is in zen; these practices may be Indian, but aren't specifically his. I'm not saying that a power imbalance in a religious context of sexual activity needs to be abusive, but it can be. So why not here?
user2512
Jul 23, 2020, 08:52 PM • Last activity: Aug 4, 2020, 11:24 AM
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the five precepts and marijuana - does marijuana count as an intoxicant?
The fifth of the precepts is "I undertake the training to refrain from intoxicants." does smoking marijuana count as an intoxicant ?
The fifth of the precepts is "I undertake the training to refrain from intoxicants." does smoking marijuana count as an intoxicant ?
goudakid78 (89 rep)
Aug 3, 2020, 11:53 PM • Last activity: Aug 4, 2020, 08:56 AM
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Six types of temperaments and techniques for them
According to [this Buddhist glossary][1] (quoted below), there are six types of people i.e. people with six types of nature or temperaments. Apparently, it comes from the Visuddhimagga. There is some information on the [Buddhist personality types][2] wikipedia page, but it doesn't have sufficient so...
According to this Buddhist glossary (quoted below), there are six types of people i.e. people with six types of nature or temperaments. Apparently, it comes from the Visuddhimagga. There is some information on the Buddhist personality types wikipedia page, but it doesn't have sufficient source citations. According to it, there are different recommended techniques for the different temperaments. Also, it claims this info is available in Visuddhimagga, Abhidhamma and Niddesa of KN. My questions: 1. Where can I find the references mentioned? (in Niddesa, Abhidhamma, Visuddhimagga) 2. What are the recommended techniques for the different temperaments? 3. Is this (#2) found in the scriptural sources? Please provide references. From this Buddhist glossary : > *carita* [*carita*] nature, temperament. *Carita* denotes the intrinsic > nature of a human being. The six types of temperament are: > > 1. greedy temperament [*rāga-carita*], > 2. hateful temperament [*doṣa-carita*], > 3. dull temperament [*moha-carita*], > 4. devout temperament [*śraddhā-carita*], > 5. intellectual temperament [*buddhi-carita*], > 6. discursive temperament [*vitarka-carita*]. > > The six temperaments are combined with one another. The speculative temperament (*dṛṣṭi carita*) is added to them. > > AS. I. 309. CMA. IX. 330-331. VM. III. 82-88.
ruben2020 (40846 rep)
Aug 3, 2020, 03:05 PM • Last activity: Aug 3, 2020, 08:06 PM
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if deities are merely creations of mind,how can there be purelands?
relying on Guru Rinpoche is nothing but a skillful means for realizing and empowering ourselves with the phenomena of our own pure, joyful, and powerful perceptions and experiences, which arise from our own peaceful and open Buddha nature that we all have inherited. If we believe, then Guru Rinpoche...
relying on Guru Rinpoche is nothing but a skillful means for realizing and empowering ourselves with the phenomena of our own pure, joyful, and powerful perceptions and experiences, which arise from our own peaceful and open Buddha nature that we all have inherited. If we believe, then Guru Rinpoche will always be with us. He is not an individual person of a particular time or place. He is (or represents) the Buddha, the Buddha nature and its expression. In other words, he is the true nature of the universe and the pure character or expression of that universe. Whenever we allow our mind to connect with our inner truth, that truth will always be there to be reached, and then the manifestations or expressions arisen from that truth will always arise as pure and divine manifestations or appearances. If we let ourselves be inspired and see that very ultimate peace and truth, which we all have, through the support of and/or as Guru Rinpoche, we will realize and become Guru Rinpoche and his qualities and expressions. Khenchen Thrangu Rinpoche wrote: In the case of deity meditation, it is the mind consciousness that creates the body of the deity. It is thus a mentally created body, and thus, so to speak, unreal. When, however, the karmic imprints of this visualization get stored in the all-base and become more clear and more stable, it is actually possible to meet the deity one day, or Guru Rinpoche, for example, face to face! This is the result of deity meditation with in-front visualization. [From Everyday Consciousness and Primordial Awareness, p. 39] Kunga Rinpoche, wrote in "Drinking the Mountain Stream": The deities of the tantric vehicle's extensive pantheon, the male and female personifications of psychic processes as "herukas" and "dakinis", are **"produced" by the yogin through the practice of controlled visualization until their reality overshadows that of the superficial apparent world.**When the yogin is able to visualize his own personal deity to the point where the visualization seems to have a life of its own, and when he's able to see the his environment as divine, he then practices the "divine pride" of direct identification of his own body and mind with those of his personal deity. all these quotations from masters indicate that dakinis,herukas and even guru rinpoche are not existant in the sence of having a mindstream and cognition and actually existing in some heaven.Rather they are appearances or creations of the individual's(Yogi or yidam practicioner) mind. but obviousely there are purelands as many people have visions of amitabha etc picking them up to go there etc Dawa Drolma had visitation to the pureland of avalokiteshvara guided by Tara.are these then just appearances of her own mind?like Nimittas?
johny man (307 rep)
Aug 1, 2020, 04:49 AM • Last activity: Aug 2, 2020, 01:43 AM
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Finding a Vipassana Teacher in a pandemic
I have been having questions from time to time about my practise. I do the cushion practise once a day in the morning for half an hour and try to follow the five precepts through the day. A lot of times through the day I have questions that make me feel like I need to discuss this with someone who i...
I have been having questions from time to time about my practise. I do the cushion practise once a day in the morning for half an hour and try to follow the five precepts through the day. A lot of times through the day I have questions that make me feel like I need to discuss this with someone who is more experienced than I am. How does one "find a teacher" that can help me customise path & methods for a better practise? *I live in a city called Bombay, in India.* Any help and/or insight appreciated. *PS: I have had the privilege of learning through a 10-day SN Goenka Vipassana Retreat once.* :) -With Love & Chai.
Kalpesh Mange (59 rep)
Jul 29, 2020, 07:40 PM • Last activity: Aug 1, 2020, 11:42 PM
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Good website for sutta learning?
There seems to be two prominant websites/translations for learning the suttas: 1. accesstoinsight.org 2. suttacentral.net As I was going through DN15 I see that the translations of important words differ in the two, may be in certain context even change the meaning. So which one is the good translat...
There seems to be two prominant websites/translations for learning the suttas: 1. accesstoinsight.org 2. suttacentral.net As I was going through DN15 I see that the translations of important words differ in the two, may be in certain context even change the meaning. So which one is the good translation to follow, read and learn the suttas?
The White Cloud (2420 rep)
Jul 27, 2020, 12:43 PM • Last activity: Aug 1, 2020, 09:26 PM
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Nimitta - sutta references
Please provide references from the Pali suttas on nimitta. Are they mentioned in the context of jhana? In the article below, it is mentioned that nimitta is found in the [Anapanasati Sutta][1], but I couldn't find it. Is it there? In the article "[Stepping Towards Enlightenment][2]", Ajahn Brahm wro...
Please provide references from the Pali suttas on nimitta. Are they mentioned in the context of jhana? In the article below, it is mentioned that nimitta is found in the Anapanasati Sutta , but I couldn't find it. Is it there? In the article "Stepping Towards Enlightenment ", Ajahn Brahm wrote about nimitta: > THE NINTH STEP OF the *Anapanasati Sutta* describes a very important > creature that comes to visit the still, silent mind—a *nimitta*. Pali > for “sign,” a *nimitta* is a reflection of the mind. This step is called > *citta-patisamvedi*, “experiencing the mind,” and is achieved when one > lets go of the body, thought, and the five senses (including awareness > of the breath) so completely that only a beautiful mental sign, a > *nimitta*, remains. This pure mental object is a real object in the > landscape of the mind, and when it appears for the first time it is > extremely strange. For most meditators this mental joy, is perceived > as a beautiful light. But it is not a light. The eyes are closed, and > the sight consciousness has long been turned off. Other meditators > choose to describe this first appearance of mind in terms of a > physical sensation such as intense tranquility or ecstasy. It is > perceived as a light or a feeling because this imperfect description > is the best that perception can offer.
ruben2020 (40846 rep)
Mar 13, 2019, 03:22 PM • Last activity: Aug 1, 2020, 09:21 PM
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What is difference (Vedic) Consciousness versus Pali Text terms "Deathless", "Awakened Awareness"?
Would you kindly give your input on these Pali text quotes and comments? They are derived from "[Questions on the Five Skhandas](https://buddhism.stackexchange.com/q/9983/254)", specifically [Dhammadhatu's answer](https://buddhism.stackexchange.com/a/17584/254) regarding the common reference "Consci...
Would you kindly give your input on these Pali text quotes and comments? They are derived from "[Questions on the Five Skhandas](https://buddhism.stackexchange.com/q/9983/254) ", specifically [Dhammadhatu's answer](https://buddhism.stackexchange.com/a/17584/254) regarding the common reference "Consciousness is All." Specifically, here are the comments and responses: > "Vedantic teachings inevitably lead to the direct discovery that "consciousness is all." One of your quotes: > "Apart from a requisite condition, there is no coming-into-play of consciousness"; that: "a coming, a going, a passing away, an arising, a growth, an increase or a proliferation of consciousness apart from form, from feeling, from perception, from fabrications ...would be impossible." I am familiar with both traditions but find the definitional- semantic Vedantic and Buddhist use of the term "consciousness' different at times, causing confusion among Advaita Vedanta and Buddhist students. May I quote [The Five Aggregates: A Study Guide by Thanissaro Bhikkhu?](http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/study/khandha.html) From their commentary, they appear to make contradictory statements. Ultimately, the text differentiates between the use of the term "consciousness' and "Awakening Awareness" or "the deathless". The text, referenced above, says: > He (The Buddha)... discovered a reality — the Deathless — that no words could describe. The author speculates that Buddha had to "stretch" the use of various words to help teach the tools necessary to investigate the kkhandas. Some issues I would love to hear input on: First, the intransience/impermanence of all "things". As the text illustrates: > "Form is inconstant, feeling is inconstant, perception is inconstant, fabrications are inconstant, consciousness is inconstant.' Thus he remains focused on inconstancy with regard to the five aggregates." What follows is commonly discovered to be inexplicable. Here is the revelation of--perhaps--another term which might be equivalent to both traditions: > "....If passion and delight are entirely eradicated, though, all clinging is entirely abandoned, the intentions that fabricate khandhas are dropped, and the mind totally released. The bricks of the pavement have turned into a runway, and the mind has taken off. Into what? The authors of the discourses seem unwilling to say, even to the extent of describing it as a state of existence, non-existence, neither, or both (§§49-51). As one of the discourses states, the freedom lying beyond the khandhas also lies beyond the realm to which language properly applies (§49; see also AN 4:173). There is also the very real practical problem that any preconceived notions of that freedom, if clung to as a perception-khandha, could easily act as an obstacle to its attainment. Still, there is also the possibility that, if properly used, such a perception-khandha might act as an aid on the path. So the discourses provide hints in the form of similes, referring to total freedom as: The unfashioned, the unbent, the fermentation-free, the true, the beyond, the subtle, the very-hard-to-see, the ageless, permanence, the undecaying, the featureless, non-elaboration, peace, the deathless, the exquisite, bliss, rest, the ending of craving, the wonderful, the marvelous, the secure, security, unbinding, the unafflicted, dispassion, purity, release, attachment-free, the island, shelter, harbor, refuge, the ultimate. — SN 43.1-44 Other passages mention a consciousness in this freedom — "without feature or surface, without end, luminous all around" — lying outside of time and space, experienced when the six sense spheres stop functioning (§54). In this it differs from the consciousness-khandha, which depends on the six sense spheres and can be described in such terms as near or far, past, present, or future. Consciousness without feature is thus the awareness of Awakening. And the freedom of this awareness carries over even when the awakened person returns to ordinary consciousness. As the Buddha said of himself: > "Freed, dissociated, & released from form,the Tathāgata dwells with unrestricted awareness. Freed, dissociated, & released from feeling… perception… fabrications… consciousness… birth… aging… death… suffering & stress… defilement, the Tathāgata dwells with unrestricted awareness" (§56). Would you kindly give your input on these Pali text quotes and comments? 1. Impermanence-- so what is it that is described above as "permanent", "deathless"? 2. What is it that is referred to as "unfashioned", "exquisite", "bliss", "the ultimate"? 3. What is the semantic difference between what is referred to by some traditions as "consciousness" and Buddha's exquisite, permanent "awareness of Awakening"--"without feature or surface, without end, luminous all around" — "lying outside of time and space, experienced when the six sense spheres stop functioning (§54)" 4. If not consciousness, what is the correct term for "consciousness without feature" that Buddha refers to? 5)How do you describe this " this freedom that carries over even when the awakened person returns to ordinary consciousness?
chris hebard (61 rep)
Sep 23, 2016, 11:20 AM • Last activity: Aug 1, 2020, 02:37 PM
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