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Motivation and long-term practice
I have been meditating (samatha-vipassana within the Theravada tradition) for many years now, and I see myself always falling in the same pattern: (1) I have periods of very high motivation, which can last 2-6 weeks, and in which I make lots of progress and develop good levels of insight and concent...
I have been meditating (samatha-vipassana within the Theravada tradition) for many years now, and I see myself always falling in the same pattern:
(1) I have periods of very high motivation, which can last 2-6 weeks, and in which I make lots of progress and develop good levels of insight and concentration (good access concentration, experiences of pity and sukha, more lucid insight on impermanence, etc.) I also read and watch lots of content on practice and get closer to people who share this "interest".
(2) When these phases wane, my sittings get increasingly filled with thoughts related to other life matters, especially things that demand high levels of engagement and to which I am somewhat attached (work projects, a new hobby, a new life development). I keep my regular practice (2hrs daily: 1hr in the morning, 1hr in the evening) but my concentration quickly decreases, and I struggle to stay with any object of meditation for long periods. Mindfulness in daily life also gradually disappears.
(3) This goes on until a reading, a conversation, a film or something apparently random brings me back into state (1).
Going through these phases, insight and understanding of practice is the only thing that very slowly accumulates, and gradually increases, but concentration and mindfulness really oscillate and always seem to get back to where I started, whenever I experience state (2).
I have observed this for many years, with many eyes and from many viewpoints inside myself, while sitting and while mindful in action. And what stands out to me is a certain quality of motivation (for lack of a better word) which manifests as a cluster of perceptions, emotions, physical patterns and thought processes. This motivation (like the so-called dopamine cycle, to which it is probably linked) seems to go through a growth phase to a peak, and then decrease.
I have tried to voluntarily trigger the growth of this motivation factor during the descending phase (2), by reading books and create commitments that relate to the practice, even though obviously part of me develops aversion or neutrality to the whole thing. This has rarely worked.
How do you deal with motivation swings on a scale such as this? What can I do to change this pattern and boost my progress? Observing all of this does not seem to have much of an impact, at least so far.
usumdelphini
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Feb 13, 2022, 10:05 PM
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How does an ordinary person adopt Right View concerning the the hardships of the Buddha's earthly life?
As we know, the Eightfold Path begins with Right View, and then from Right View follows Right Intention. Right View - belief in suffering, the relief from suffering and the Triple Gem; from this follows Right Intention - the "desire" or resolve to follow the Buddha Way. (This is of course closer to...
As we know, the Eightfold Path begins with Right View, and then from Right View follows Right Intention. Right View - belief in suffering, the relief from suffering and the Triple Gem; from this follows Right Intention - the "desire" or resolve to follow the Buddha Way.
(This is of course closer to the Theravada belief; the Mahayana belief is too esoteric to describe in words, or to have any logical progression, but is a sudden overwhelming experience of "feeling" one is totally Buddhist. Correct? I'd like both Theravada and Mahayana perspectives on this question.)
Here is the problem: we know that the Buddha suffered hardship in this world, including sickness and requiring a physician at times. We know that he had enemies who wished him harm. How then is it possible to believe that the Buddha was the happiest or most fortunate person ever to exist? Surely, out of all of history, with billions of people, there must have been somebody with fewer sicknesses and fewer enemies!
How does one believe, WHY does one believe, that he was totally free from misery or mental anguish? Does one believe this merely because it is taught as doctrine?
How is it possible to believe that he was "happy" or "the happiest" as we, being mere humans, would understand the term? How is it possible to believe that he was "most fortunate" or "most blessed" as we would understand it?
If he was not "the happiest", "the most fortunate", or other similar expressions, as -we- would understand them, then how does a mere mortal with real-world human struggles form the resolve to follow the dharma unconditionally?
Should one believe that Buddhism can bring earthly blessings, or not? And if not, then how can a human being who suffers from a desire for/lack of earthly blessings form the motivation to follow the dharma whole-heartedly?
In the simplest terms, why would an ordinary human being with ordinary struggles want to live the life of the Buddha? Is it even possible for an ordinary human being with a difficult life to want to be like the Buddha?
formation of thought
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Sep 1, 2020, 04:11 AM
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How to deal with exhaustion?
So, I meditate every for more than half an hour during the evenings and also five minutes session every one or two hours during my work so I keep myself calm all the time(not every day but I am trying to do in these lockdown days) but what I feel is I easily get exhausted from my work which involves...
So, I meditate every for more than half an hour during the evenings and also five minutes session every one or two hours during my work so I keep myself calm all the time(not every day but I am trying to do in these lockdown days) but what I feel is I easily get exhausted from my work which involves only heavy mental activities.
But otherwise if I let myself refresh doing things which excites us like joking with my friends, watching fast beat songs, etc. I can continue my work feeling energetic. But the downside of this is I easily get carried away with the stuffs I do for refreshing or even get stressed with my work.
How to balance this?(physically i am weak person due to medical problem)
Saravanan
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May 10, 2020, 03:12 PM
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How would a Buddhist advise on this subset of problems of motivation?
Some call Buddhism psychology, so maybe it can help -- me. This sense that doing something -- let's take a difficult but generic example, learning sanskrit -- is a wonderful, exciting idea; but one never gets started with it, because there is no tangible psychological or material benefit from it --...
Some call Buddhism psychology, so maybe it can help -- me.
This sense that doing something -- let's take a difficult but generic example, learning sanskrit -- is a wonderful, exciting idea; but one never gets started with it, because there is no tangible psychological or material benefit from it -- for whatever reason [you won't find anyone new to talk with, most texts are in translation, no-one will care, etc.].
What remedy is there for this?
user2512
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Why aren't more people interested in Dhamma?
I read somewhere that Dhamma should only be taught to people who are interested and attentive to the knowledge, but why aren't more people interested in the first place? Dhamma could lead to the end of suffering, which is something most people would be interested in right? Is this because of indiffe...
I read somewhere that Dhamma should only be taught to people who are interested and attentive to the knowledge, but why aren't more people interested in the first place? Dhamma could lead to the end of suffering, which is something most people would be interested in right?
Is this because of indifference and thus ill-will and aversion? Is it because of delusion? Laziness and lethargy, or other parts of the five hindrances?
And why do people react so hostile when discussing achievements such as having better concentration, more equanimity etc.? Why don't they see it as an opportunity to learn something new? Why is there such a lack of enthusiasm and a drive to search for wisdom?
Dweezahr
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Jul 24, 2018, 10:04 AM
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Buddhism and Losing Determination
I noticed that I tend to very well know what I must do, and that I also strive and attempt to do these things, but that often I am filled with a kind of 'defeatism' or 'pessimism'. I know the right way, attempt the right way, but this heavy and saddening discouragement just makes me go: "What's the...
I noticed that I tend to very well know what I must do, and that I also strive and attempt to do these things, but that often I am filled with a kind of 'defeatism' or 'pessimism'. I know the right way, attempt the right way, but this heavy and saddening discouragement just makes me go: "What's the point? It's all futile anyways."
**How would Buddhism describe and remedy such an emotion?**
I feel like this is distinct from not knowing the right way, and not attempting the right way. It's more of a temporary emotion dragging me down, a kind of hopelessness or shame or maybe even self-hatred.
This emotion doesn't always occur, but it occurs enough for me to be held back in my practice. **What should I do?**
user7302
Nov 10, 2019, 10:09 PM
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Relation of Productivity and Entertainment
I've read a question [here][1] on music, which caused me to ponder the relationship of *effortful, productive* behaviours and of *consummatory* behaviours. I wonder: **Are productive, beneficial behaviours such as spiritual practice, intellectual pursuits, or artistic endeavours benefitted by entert...
I've read a question here on music, which caused me to ponder the relationship of *effortful, productive* behaviours and of *consummatory* behaviours. I wonder:
**Are productive, beneficial behaviours such as spiritual practice, intellectual pursuits, or artistic endeavours benefitted by entertainment as music, films or games?** Or do such forms of entertainment detract from other more meaningful goals?
I'm wondering because I surmise maybe entertainment produces positive emotions, which are positive in themselves. However, I am uncertain of my conclusion; **what is the Buddhist view on these topics?**
**Are positive emotions only virtuous if accompanied by an underlying motivation towards a meaningful aim?**
Thank you
user7302
Oct 3, 2019, 01:41 PM
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How to approach motivation for work during Vipassana?
My career involves lot of self-learning, and self-motivation. I like my work, which is a reason why my work doesn't feel like work. However, I am finding it hard to incorporate Vipassana into my work. For example, if I'm working and I'm in the *zone* there's a general pleasurable feeling associated...
My career involves lot of self-learning, and self-motivation. I like my work, which is a reason why my work doesn't feel like work. However, I am finding it hard to incorporate Vipassana into my work. For example, if I'm working and I'm in the *zone* there's a general pleasurable feeling associated with motivation/focus. It's what keeps me going. I feel like it's a mental state that's actually valuable specially in today's society full of procrastination.
However, if I mentally note that sense of motivation/focus, it does fade away, but it makes it harder for me to concentrate and enjoy work. In fact, I even get slightly depressed and begin to hate the work. Then I would mentally note those negative feelings, but they will come back and I begin to feel miserable, and like a robot. Will this go away?
Should I constantly "mental note" my feeling of motivation/focus, similar to how one "mental notes" a feeling of anger? How am I suppose to apply Vipassana in this situation?
Omm Kreate
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Mar 16, 2019, 01:03 AM
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Formal Meditation Laziness
I have the intuition, from what I've heard within Buddhism, that formal meditation is rarely ever "wrong", and provides benefit if even slight form is held. Nevertheless, I am struggling to create a regular schedule. It has been years that I know of meditation, have investigated the techniques, and...
I have the intuition, from what I've heard within Buddhism, that formal meditation is rarely ever "wrong", and provides benefit if even slight form is held.
Nevertheless, I am struggling to create a regular schedule. It has been years that I know of meditation, have investigated the techniques, and *still* I seem to avoid practising formally.
Despite contemplation and walking meditation, I fail to progress to a formal routine.
I wonder:
1. Is there really any remedy to this types of procrastination and
laziness? I feel it may be pointless to try and seek advice on this
topic, that my capacity is absent despite my present desire.
2. If they exist, what are the remedies to such a basic and pervasive
laziness?
Perhaps I should specify that the reasons I often tell myself against meditating (or other things) are:
1. Lack of obvious suffering.
2. Lack of ultimate goal.
3. Aversion to the effort.
user7302
Oct 4, 2017, 01:24 PM
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Bhava Tanha & Vibhava Tanha
The above mentioned technical terms are respectively translated as Craving for Becoming (something) & Craving for Non-Becoming/Getting Rid Off. Above said, how do we know that we're in Craving for Becoming (or not) whenever we're cultivating good? One of the limbs of the N8P, that is, 'bhavana', is...
The above mentioned technical terms are respectively translated as Craving for Becoming (something) & Craving for Non-Becoming/Getting Rid Off.
Above said, how do we know that we're in Craving for Becoming (or not) whenever we're cultivating good? One of the limbs of the N8P, that is, 'bhavana', is about active cultivation. Where is the difference between the two?
Similarly, if we do virtuous acts and reflect on those acts regularly, the perception of a 'virtuous person' increases as well, doesn't it? This too, then, is Bhava Tanha?
Now with Vibhava Tanha: Suppose I am overweight and must lose weight immeditately; is the 'getting rid' of my body fat then considered vibhava tanha and at the same time 'bhava tanha' (becoming a skinny person)?
Finally, when do we exactly know whether something is bhava tanha or kusala chanda? Is it primarily our motivation, i.e., in this case, for whom we're losing weight/what motivation causes us to lose weight, or is it something that we can't avoid at all, since 'identity birth(s)' ('I am this', 'I am not this') exists in everyone except in a fully enlightened being.
Val
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Feb 17, 2019, 09:32 AM
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What did the Buddha say about motivation?
**What did the Buddha say about wholesome types of motivation?** Is there a difference in the Pali language between "intention" (as in Right Intention) and "motivation"? From what I understand Right Intention is renunciation, good-will and harmlessness. I can understand how good-will and maybe renun...
**What did the Buddha say about wholesome types of motivation?**
Is there a difference in the Pali language between "intention" (as in Right Intention) and "motivation"?
From what I understand Right Intention is renunciation, good-will and harmlessness. I can understand how good-will and maybe renunciation can be a sort of motivation, but harmlessness seems to be more passive and therefore maybe not a motivation in the same way
**Basically what I'm looking for are the things that motivate us (as in "drives us") to do things, which are considered wholesome in Buddhism**
(Maybe there is also a connection to Right Effort here)
Grateful for help with understanding this better!
sunyata
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Mar 18, 2017, 03:16 AM
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Leave pain while enjoying life?
I'm really interested in Buddhism, but I have a hard time motivating myself to follow the five precepts. I don't particularly want to stop eating meat, let alone stop drinking and/or smoking. Can I still move along the Buddhist path? In the path to the disappearance of suffering? Thanks!
I'm really interested in Buddhism, but I have a hard time motivating myself to follow the five precepts. I don't particularly want to stop eating meat, let alone stop drinking and/or smoking.
Can I still move along the Buddhist path? In the path to the disappearance of suffering?
Thanks!
Kalapa
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Jan 13, 2018, 09:17 AM
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Buddhism and Procrastination
I have two simple questions. 1) What is the Buddhist view on procrastination, and its solution ? 2) What is the solution to a specific lack of motivation, e.g. school work ? Something not related to an overarching goal, or even linked with spiritual values. In other words, how does one prime oneself...
I have two simple questions.
1) What is the Buddhist view on procrastination, and its solution ?
2) What is the solution to a specific lack of motivation, e.g. school work ? Something not related to an overarching goal, or even linked with spiritual values. In other words, how does one prime oneself to do something ?
user7302
Oct 19, 2017, 02:35 AM
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Secular Motivation
I am new here and I would like some help with the issue of motivation. I am a 25 years old student in engineering in his last semester at university. I have been facing the problem that whenever I study, it becomes a huge source of stress. I have been a buddhist and meditating for the past 4 months...
I am new here and I would like some help with the issue of motivation.
I am a 25 years old student in engineering in his last semester at university. I have been facing the problem that whenever I study, it becomes a huge source of stress.
I have been a buddhist and meditating for the past 4 months now and I like of what the practice has done to me and my relationship with my parents and with people in general. The motivation of being in the path for the benefit of all beings really resonates with me and it really helps me, but I can't mirror that motivation to my studies. Secular knowledge used to be such a motivation for me when I was young and it has been missing for such a long time now. Now the only thing that motivates me is when I feel that I will be actively helping people, but I feel like I can't abandon my current state of life and just decide to do something else than getting my degree and pursuing something related to it.
I don't know if it is clear, but I can study for a few periods of time (not enough for my course), but studying gets me sort of all pumped up. I get all this energy flowing, restlessness. I feel like I have all this attachment maybe to getting high degrees or to this illusion that I will only be happy if I am able to graduate now, or that my parents and people will like me better if I show that I know more, or if I have all this knowledge accumulated I will be more successful. It is clear to me that it was much stronger when I started meditating that it is now. It seems is obvious to me by my previous statements that studying has a lot of issues attached to it. :teehee:
I feel like in the past months buddhism has helped me let go of a lot of my illusions and that helps me get on with my day without getting so frustrated, but I still have this issue. Do you guys think this anxiety related to studying will reduce after more months of practice? Actually, I know by the words of the Buddha that it will, but do you have any advice in regards to it?
I hope I made sense writing in english beacuse I am from Brazil.
Thank you!!!
Bruno Arruda
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May 9, 2016, 10:27 PM
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How to find motivation to overcome a hindrance in the moment of truth?
I am trying for a long time to find motivation to practice meditation - i think i found a good general motivation finally after watching a dhamma talk but it still doesn't fully solve my problem : when i have the hindrance show up - how to overcome it ? hunger - tiredness - pain - cold ect now peopl...
I am trying for a long time to find motivation to practice meditation - i think i found a good general motivation finally after watching a dhamma talk
but it still doesn't fully solve my problem : when i have the hindrance show up - how to overcome it ? hunger - tiredness - pain - cold ect
now people can say : "just be mindful of it and let it go" BUT ..... **how do i find motivation to be mindful at that specific moment** ? i can be mindful for half an hour meditating being mindful but what should i do when i become very tired or very hungry - where its very hard to stay mindful - what gives me the power to overcome it than - how to find motivation to be mindful at that specific hard moment ?
breath
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Feb 27, 2016, 04:51 AM
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How do I prevent non-buddhists from going against fourth precept?
As we know fourth precept is the one precept that the Bodhisatta has never said to have broken since he started cultivating Paramita. When I need to prevent a Buddhist person form lying, I state the above statement. And that is the reason that I was also prevented by telling lies. But if we need to...
As we know fourth precept is the one precept that the Bodhisatta has never said to have broken since he started cultivating Paramita.
When I need to prevent a Buddhist person form lying, I state the above statement. And that is the reason that I was also prevented by telling lies.
But if we need to prevent a non-Buddhist person from telling lies or going against fourth precept, how can we do. How can we motivate him/her not to lie?
Tharindu Sathischandra
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Mar 28, 2016, 08:00 AM
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Is a Daruma doll a good motivation to meditate ?
Is using a Daruma doll as a means to motivation to meditate a good idea ? or is it counter productive ?
Is using a Daruma doll as a means to motivation to meditate a good idea ? or is it counter productive ?
breath
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Dec 3, 2015, 05:58 AM
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