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Original (French) Source of This Image of the Curé of Ars?
This booklet was published by the Catholic Truth Society in 1938: [*The Cure of Ars by Dom Ernest Graf*](https://www.etsy.com/listing/1661856232/the-cure-of-ars-vintage-booklet-1938?show_sold_out_detail=1&ref=nla_listing_details) I recall coming across this same image in a 19th century book written...
This booklet was published by the Catholic Truth Society in 1938: [*The Cure of Ars by Dom Ernest Graf*](https://www.etsy.com/listing/1661856232/the-cure-of-ars-vintage-booklet-1938?show_sold_out_detail=1&ref=nla_listing_details) I recall coming across this same image in a 19th century book written in French---but I don't recall the title nor have I been able to stumble upon the book I am looking for with basic searches such as *vie le curé d'ars*. QUESTION: Can anyone tell me where I might find an older version of the same image depicted in the link? If someone can tell me the original source and illustrator---that would be great. Whenever I see this image (or one strongly related to it) in a publication, is never comes with an attribution. Thank you.
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Jul 1, 2025, 05:28 PM
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Did St. John Vianney Ever Directly Say Anything About Scruples?
I am currently working on a project devoted to the thoughts of the Curé of Ars (St. John Vianney) on various topics. One of the topics is *scruples*. St. Alphonsus Liguori, for instance, has this to say about scruples itself: > A conscience is scrupulous when, for a frivolous reason and without rat...
I am currently working on a project devoted to the thoughts of the Curé of Ars (St. John Vianney) on various topics. One of the topics is *scruples*. St. Alphonsus Liguori, for instance, has this to say about scruples itself: > A conscience is scrupulous when, for a frivolous reason and without rational basis, there is a frequent fear of sin even though in reality there is no sin at all. A scruple is a defective understanding of something. St. Philip Neri seemed to have a fair amount to say on the subject, including > The scrupulous should remit themselves always and in everything to the judgment of their confessor, and accustom themselves to have a contempt for their own scruples. And he offered the following advice to those pestered by scruples: > If those who are molested by scruples wish to know whether they have consented to a suggestion or not, especially in thoughts, they should see whether, during the temptation, they have always had a lively love to the virtue opposed to the vice in respect of which they were tempted, and hatred to that same vice, and this is mostly a good proof that they have not consented. and > When a scrupulous person has once made up his mind that he has not consented to a temptation, he must not reason the matter over again to see whether he has really consented or not, for the same temptations often return by making this sort of reflection. However, when I searched, for example, the various sermons and catechetical instructions of the Curé of Ars, I could find nothing along these lines. In fact, I could find nothing at all in which anything directly regarding *scruples* in the above sense is even mentioned. St. John Vianney, has, however, used the word in a slightly different sense on several occasions; when, for example, he says: > My children, you make a scruple of missing holy Mass, because you commit a great sin in missing it by your own fault ; but you have no scruple in missing an instruction. and also, > He [lukewarm Christian] has few scruples in cutting out, on the least pretext, the Asperges and the prayers before Mass. But, alas, I can find nothing regarding his having addressed *scruples* specifically as a spiritual disease. I have consulted his definitive biography by Trochu, and all I could find in there regarding scruples as a disease, is a reference that Trochu makes in regards to St. Benedict Labre en route to receiving the hospitality of the Vianney household when St. John Vianney was a little boy: > Tortured by scruples, Benoit Labre had just left the Trappist monastery of Sept-Fonds, where he had been a novice under the name of Brother Urban. He had now acquired a certainty that his vocation was to be a wayfarer for the remainder of his life, so he set out for Rome. His first halt was at Paray-le-Monial, where he paid long visits to the chapel of the Apparitions. From Paray he journeyed to Lyons, but rather than enter the city at nightfall he chose to spend the night at Dardilly. On observing a number of poor persons going to the house of Pierre Vianney, he went along with them. QUESTION: Does anyone know if the Curé of Ars had had anything to say about the disease of *scruples* directly, perhaps along the lines of the Liguori and Neri quotes provided above; and if so, what are they or where I may find them? (The sources I have used, for the most part, are in English. Perhaps there is something in the French in which the subject is directly addressed?) Thank you.
DDS (3256 rep)
Jun 25, 2023, 09:47 PM • Last activity: Jun 9, 2025, 06:06 AM
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Looking Original 1930 Burns & Oates "Thoughts of the Curé D'Ars" in either French or English
Inside this book (page 4): https://www.amazon.com/Thoughts-Cure-Ars-John-Vianney/dp/089555240X one finds: First published (presumably by Burns & Oates) in 1930 as *Thoughts of the Curé D'Ars* I have tried to find a book with this title published in 1930 without success. I am also under the impr...
Inside this book (page 4): https://www.amazon.com/Thoughts-Cure-Ars-John-Vianney/dp/089555240X one finds: First published (presumably by Burns & Oates) in 1930 as *Thoughts of the Curé D'Ars* I have tried to find a book with this title published in 1930 without success. I am also under the impression that Burns & Oates published this book in both French and English. Does anyone know if a copy of the aforesaid 1930 book is available somewhere online in either French or English? If so, where? If not, does someone know where a hard copy can be obtained? Thank you.
DDS (3256 rep)
Jun 22, 2023, 12:58 PM • Last activity: Aug 1, 2024, 09:01 PM
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Looking for a Complete Online Collection of Fr. Jean Baptiste Saint-Jure's "The Knowledge and Love of Our Lord Jesus Christ"
According to the [*New Catholic Encyclopedia*](https://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/saint-jure-jean-baptiste): > [Fr. Jean Baptiste] Saint–Jure had immediate success as a writer and exercised a profound influence upon the Christian piety of 17th-century F...
According to the [*New Catholic Encyclopedia*](https://www.encyclopedia.com/religion/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/saint-jure-jean-baptiste) : > [Fr. Jean Baptiste] Saint–Jure had immediate success as a writer and exercised a profound influence upon the Christian piety of 17th-century France. His book on the life of the Baron of Renty went through seven editions by 1654, three years after its initial publication. His other published works include a treatise on the knowledge and love of Jesus (1634); meditations on the important truths of the faith, and on the purgative, illuminative, and unitive ways to perfection (1637); a treatise on the means for the main actions of the Christian life (1644); considerations on the crucified Savior (1643); a treatise in two volumes on the spiritual life (1646); meditations on the principal mysteries of Christ's life, also in two volumes (1653); a consideration of Christ's instructions to men (1649); a treatise on faith, hope, and charity (1646); and a treatise on the vows of religious life and the qualities necessary for living the community life of a religious (1658). In particular, I have been searching for all volumes (there are at least two) of Saint-Jure's "The Knowledge and Love of Our Lord Jesus Christ." (in English *preferably*.) So far, all I have been able to find is [*Volume II*](https://archive.org/details/atreatiseonkno02sainuoft) which was published in English in 1875. I would like to locate Volume I, which I am hoping contains Saint-Jure's treatise on the Divine Will and our need to surrender to It. More specifically, it is this treatise which appears in TAN's [*Trustful Surrender to Divine Providence*](https://tanbooks.com/products/books/trustful-surrender-to-divine-providence-the-secret-of-peace-and-happiness/) along with some excerpts on the subject by St. Claude de la Columbiere. As I said before, I don't know if there are additional volumes available in English, but if there are, I would very much like to have online access to them. It seems that Saint-Jure's "The Knowledge and Love of Our Lord Jesus Christ" was continually at the fingertips of St. John Vianney (the Cure of Ars). QUESTION: Where may I find an online (preferably English, but French OK) version of Volume I (and any others that may exist after Volume II) of Fr. Jean Baptiste Saint-Jure's *The Knowledge and Love of Our Lord Jesus Christ?* Internet Archive (or something like it) would be best for my purposes, as I would like to re-typeset at least some parts in English; and so, I am looking for online access to original (19th century or no later than 1929) publications of the volumes in PDF form. Thank you.
DDS (3256 rep)
May 30, 2024, 10:08 PM • Last activity: Jun 13, 2024, 08:42 PM
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Looking for "Mémoire sur Monsieur Vianney" by Catherine Lassagne (First Biographer of the Saint)
According to the [Sanctuaire d'Ars webpage](https://www.arsnet.org/Catherine-Lassagne.html), Catherine Lassagne recorded her many recollections of St. John Vianney in a small book entitled, "Mémoire sur Monsieur Vianney". It was subsequently revived a couple of times--the last being in 1867, ei...
According to the [Sanctuaire d'Ars webpage](https://www.arsnet.org/Catherine-Lassagne.html) , Catherine Lassagne recorded her many recollections of St. John Vianney in a small book entitled, "Mémoire sur Monsieur Vianney". It was subsequently revived a couple of times--the last being in 1867, eight years after the death of the Curé of Ars. In the above link, she is referred to as the first biographer of the Saint. QUESTION: I have long sought the availability of this book online (an archived edition) but without success. Does anyone know if such a PDF exists online that one may access? I have tried various titles, such as *Petit mémoire*, which is how Msgr. Trochu refers to the book in his popular biography of the Saint, The Curé of Ars, currently published by TAN Books. *Note:* I am looking for an accessible online version of the book. There is a paperback "Au Quotidien", which may be the same book with a different title---but I am not interested in that one. Rather, I wish to find a photocopy of an unedited (unabridged) original.
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Jul 11, 2023, 03:51 PM • Last activity: Jul 11, 2023, 05:16 PM
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Can a Patron Saint formally declared as such by a pope be replaced?
In the post https://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/60457/can-patron-saints-be-dethroned there seems to be some confusion between a patron saint having become no longer a patron saint, and a patron saint being "decanonized". Here, I specifically ask: When **a Pope declares a Saint to be a p...
In the post https://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/60457/can-patron-saints-be-dethroned there seems to be some confusion between a patron saint having become no longer a patron saint, and a patron saint being "decanonized". Here, I specifically ask: When **a Pope declares a Saint to be a patron of something** (say, St. John Vianney who was first declared "Patron Saint of Parish Priests" by Pope Pius IX in 1929, and later made "Patron Saint of All Priests" by Pope Benedict XVI in 2010) can that Saint's office of *patron* ever be revoked by another Pope? Has it ever happened?
DDS (3256 rep)
Jul 5, 2023, 10:09 PM • Last activity: Jul 6, 2023, 03:56 PM
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The Curé of Ars on Dancing
I am looking for the *exact* quote (French O.K.) and source of a quote from St. John Vianney, which I vaguely recall is: > A dancer leaves their Guardian Angel at the door, and soon there are as many devils as dancers on the floor. A [similar question](https://christianity.stackexchange.com/question...
I am looking for the *exact* quote (French O.K.) and source of a quote from St. John Vianney, which I vaguely recall is: > A dancer leaves their Guardian Angel at the door, and soon there are as many devils as dancers on the floor. A [similar question](https://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/79375/reference-request-about-st-john-vianney-and-the-miraculous-medal) has previously been asked but the book *suggested* in the unaccepted answer does not contain the answer to the posed question. For years I have also been looking for the answer. But I believe the source for *this question*'s quote is more readily available; I just haven't come across it in a while.
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Nov 12, 2022, 11:31 PM • Last activity: Nov 13, 2022, 12:49 PM
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Reference request about St. John Vianney and the Miraculous Medal?
I have come across on a couple of websites (one a blog), but never in a book, the following conversation between the Cure d'Ars and one of his penitents: > >"Do you remember that you went to a ball on such-and-such occasion? > >"Yes, I remember. > >"Do you remember that at a certain moment a handsom...
I have come across on a couple of websites (one a blog), but never in a book, the following conversation between the Cure d'Ars and one of his penitents: > >"Do you remember that you went to a ball on such-and-such occasion? > >"Yes, I remember. > >"Do you remember that at a certain moment a handsome young man entered the ballroom? He was quite elegant, appeared very upright and danced with several young ladies? > >"Yes, I do. > >"Do you recall that you had a great desire to dance with him? > >"I recall that. > >"Do you recollect that you became sad because he didn’t ask you to dance? > >"Yes, I do. > >"Do you remember that by chance you looked down at his feet and saw a strange blue light coming from them? > >"Yes. I remember. > >"That young man was none other than the devil who had taken that shape to tempt several of the young women there. He was unable to approach you because you are a Daughter of Mary protected by her, and you were wearing the Miraculous Medal. I have never come across a legitimate reference for this conversation. The two sites that I have seen this conversation recounted are: - [*The Saint of the day* reflection on St John Vianney](https://www.traditioninaction.org/SOD/j084sdCureArs_8-4.htm) by Prof. Plinio Corrêa de Oliveira - [*A Catholic Life* article on St. John Vianney](https://acatholiclife.blogspot.com/2006/08/st-john-vianney.html) *My Question is*: Can anyone who may be familiar with St. John Vianney and the Miraculous Medal provide me with a valid citation for this conversation? The aforementioned sites provide no reference.
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Oct 13, 2020, 06:20 PM • Last activity: Nov 13, 2022, 03:02 AM
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English translation of "Sermon sur la communion indigne" by St. John Vianney
I am looking for the complete English translation of St. John Vianney's sermon, "*Sermon sur la communion indigne*" ("Sermon on Unworthy Communion"). It is part of the *Sermons inédits* (Unpublished sermons) collection sometimes [tacked on to Volume 4](https://livres-mystiques.com/partieTEXTES/...
I am looking for the complete English translation of St. John Vianney's sermon, "*Sermon sur la communion indigne*" ("Sermon on Unworthy Communion"). It is part of the *Sermons inédits* (Unpublished sermons) collection sometimes [tacked on to Volume 4](https://livres-mystiques.com/partieTEXTES/Ars/Sermons/table4.html) of his sermon collection [*Sermons du vénérable serviteur de Dieu Jean-Baptiste-Marie Vianney curé d'Ars*: *Sermons divers*](http://www.liberius.net/livre.php?id_livre=937) . Clean pdf scan of Volume 4 without the *Sermons inédits* section (1883) can be found [here](http://www.liberius.net/livres/Sermons_du_venerable_serviteur_de_Dieu_Jean-Baptiste-Marie_Vianney_cure_d_Ars_(tome_4)_000000937.pdf) . In French, the complete sermon can be found [here]( http://jesusmarie.free.fr/jean_marie_vianney_cure_d_ars_sermons_tome4.html) or [here](https://livres-mystiques.com/partieTEXTES/Ars/Sermons/tome4/20indigne.htm) . Various Internet sites have excerpts of the sermon in English (such as [here](https://www.newliturgicalmovement.org/2016/04/st-john-vianneys-preaching-on-unworthy.html)) , but I have yet to find the whole sermon in English.
DDS (3256 rep)
Nov 2, 2022, 09:45 PM • Last activity: Nov 3, 2022, 03:09 AM
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