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What is first? Vedanā (feeling) or saññā (perception)?

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**Do we feel because we perceive? Or do we perceive because we feel?** As per mahā-vedallasutta(MN43) > Yaṁ vedeti taṁ sañjānāti, yaṁ sañjānāti taṁ vijānāti. > so vedanā -> sañjānāti -> vijānāti But shouldn't this order be in reverse? Because first, we cognise (vijānāti), then recognise (sañjānāti) and then we feel, isn't it so? Goenka also confirms this sequence. vijānāti->sañjānāti->vedeti. Or is there a different between viññanā and vijānāti as well saññā and sañjānāti? Nibbedhikasutta(AN 6.63) says > Phassa is nidānasambhavo for vedanā/saññā/sankhārā. as if vedanā, saññā and sankhārā co-arise. but are they independent of each other? **Note**: (Adding comments of @blue_ego) consider this question as non sequential. When I say first it means second is dependent on first. Take any meditation practice. we just practice to change perception, and feeling changes accordingly. but vice versa is not true.
Asked by enRaiser (1091 rep)
Apr 22, 2024, 06:28 AM
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