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What does discourse AN 9.37 describe?

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From AN 9.37 : > Ven. Ānanda said, “It’s amazing, friends, it’s astounding, how the > Blessed One who knows & sees, the worthy one, rightly self-awakened, > has attained & awakened to an opening [in a confining place]1 for the > purification of beings, for the overcoming of sorrow & lamentation, > for the disappearance of pain & distress, for the attainment of the > right method, & for the realization of unbinding, where the eye will > be, and those forms, and yet one will not be sensitive to that > dimension; where the ear will be, and those sounds… where the nose > will be, and those aromas… where the tongue will be, and those > flavors… where the body will be, and those tactile sensations, and yet > **one will not be sensitive to that dimension.**” Why does the passage omit the sixth-sense sphere, intellect-idea? Usually the use of ellipsis for repetitive text, but not in this discourse. Does this discourse describe intra-jhana or a state after jhana? As an adjunct, MN43 says this about the state after *cessation of perception and feeling*: > Friend, what is the difference between a dead body and a bhikkhu > attained to the cessation of perceptions and feelings? Friend, in a > dead body the bodily determination (in and out breath) has ceased and > is appeased The verbal determination (thinking and pondering) has > ceased and is appeased The mental determination (feeling and > perception) has ceased and is appeased. Vitality is exhausted. The > heat has extinguished, and the mental faculties have broken up. > > Of the bhikkhu attained to the cessation of perceptions and feelings, > the bodily determintion has ceased and is appeased. The verbal > determination has ceased and is appeased. The mental determination has > ceased is appeased. Vitality is not exhausted. The heat is not > extinguished. **The mental faculties are very clear.** Friend, this is > the difference between a dead body and of one attained to the > cessation of perceptions and feelings. If AN 9:37 is not describing jhana, does MN.43 describe a state different than AN 9.37?
Asked by āḷasu bhikhārī (2033 rep)
Jun 20, 2023, 10:46 PM
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