How do you understand Ananda Sutta?
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How do you understand the Ananda Sutta ?
How do you place it in relation to the Atman or Anatta (An-atman) doctrine?
SN 44.10
> Then the wanderer Vacchagotta went to the Blessed One and, on arrival,
> exchanged courteous greetings with him. After an exchange of friendly
> greetings & courtesies, he sat to one side. As he was sitting there he
> asked the Blessed One: "Now then, Venerable Gotama, is there a self?"
>
> When this was said, the Blessed One was silent.
>
> "Then is there no self?"
>
> A second time, the Blessed One was silent.
>
> Then Vacchagotta the wanderer got up from his seat and left.
>
> Then, not long after Vacchagotta the wanderer had left, Ven. Ananda
> said to the Blessed One, "Why, lord, did the Blessed One not answer
> when asked a question by Vacchagotta the wanderer?"
>
> "Ananda, if I — being asked by Vacchagotta the wanderer if there is a
> self — were to answer that there is a self, that would be conforming
> with those brahmans & contemplatives who are exponents of eternalism
> [the view that there is an eternal, unchanging soul]. If I — being
> asked by Vacchagotta the wanderer if there is no self — were to answer
> that there is no self, that would be conforming with those brahmans &
> contemplatives who are exponents of annihilationism [the view that
> death is the annihilation of consciousness]. If I — being asked by
> Vacchagotta the wanderer if there is a self — were to answer that
> there is a self, would that be in keeping with the arising of
> knowledge that all phenomena are not-self?"
>
> "No, lord."
>
> "And if I — being asked by Vacchagotta the wanderer if there is no
> self — were to answer that there is no self, the bewildered
> Vacchagotta would become even more bewildered: 'Does the self I used
> to have now not exist?'"
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Jan 18, 2018, 07:09 AM
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