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Is the bread really Jesus body - Transubstantiation?

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**I've heard a million complex arguments about this for both sides - but here is my take on it.** There are only 3 possible things in this situation. 1. The bread truly becomes Jesus' body. 2. The bread does not become Jesus' body and its a 'figure of speech'. 3. The Holy Spirit made a mistake when writing the Bible. Lets be a bit odd and using the process of elimination going bottom to top. If you're a believing Christian and understand the properties of God, then simply the Holy Spirit can not make mistakes since it is God. God does not make mistakes so whatever is written in the Bible exactly how it is we must take as FACT. Many protestants like to argue that Jesus did not mean that the bread is his body. They like to believe it is symbolic rather then a meaning in actuality, just a mere representation. I asked a lot of them and they tend to say well my pastor said it or someone else said it - seems a lot of people just believe things they are told rather then going out and studying the actual Bible. It seems that people are forgetting that the Bible is literally God communicating with humans, smart, dumb, whoever you are it is for you to read and understand. It's not always a huge puzzle that requires an insane amount of mazes to navigate. One example of this is when Jesus says 'I am'. Jesus says I am so many times through out the Bible and not once is it 'symbolic' or 'he didn't actually mean that'. - "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." - "I am the resurrection and the life." - "I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep." - "I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved." - "I am the light of the world." Nobody has anything to say against these yet it clearly states "I am" NOT "I am like". - "I am the bread of life." - John 6:35 - "I am the bread of life." - John 6:48 - "I am the living bread that came down from heaven" - John 6:51 However when he says this all the protestants lose their mind. Hypocrisy! Also to absolutely put a cap once and forever on this topic; when Jesus did want to represent something or use symbolic language... he did! Just look whenever he wants to use a metaphor or a simile he does with rightful semantics! - "Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, **as a hen** gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing." - Matthew 23:37 Why didn't he say 'Jerusalem you are a hen', hmm maybe because it was symbolic. - "You **are like** whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead" - Matthew 23:27 Why didn't he say 'you are whitewashed tombs', hmm maybe because it was symbolic. This proves that when Jesus says 'I am' he means it. Otherwise you better start re interpreting every other verse rather then just one and live up to your logic. Protestants tend to think that because they are modern they have somehow found new intellect that hasn't been accessible for the past 1500 years by Church fathers before their creation. I can already think what some people will wrongfully reply under here and I'll try my best to keep track of this thread and decimate any argument that is put against this one with ease. P.S - I am not Orthodox, Catholic or Protestant. I am Christian! As you all should be. TL;DR - Jesus said 'I am the bread' not 'I am like the bread' or 'The bread is like me'. Take his word for it not anyone elses.
Asked by user63900
Dec 3, 2023, 04:49 PM
Last activity: Dec 3, 2023, 07:05 PM