Was the statement that Jesus ‘received sinners’ stated invidiously, meaning the people saying it could not consider themselves to be ‘sinners’?
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Jesus is reported as mixing with sinners and eating with them in Luke 15:2. The RSV and KJV say this was “murmured”, which I take to show that those stating this fact were complaining, or – worse – sneering.
This question wants to explore
(1) how persons who knew themselves to be sinners would have felt, that: “This man receives sinners and eats with them”. Then,
(2) how might that contrast with what the people who murmured that fact thought of themselves with regard to sin. Finally, For both groups,
(3) how would their view of salvation affect their response to what Jesus did?
I’m *not* looking for a hermeneutic-type answer because this question asks whether the unspoken implication that the murmurers had was a view of themselves that meant they did not view themselves as ‘sinners’. There are many Bible texts that deal with this matter of different views of what it is to be a sinner, not just the one I gave as an example. Nor do I want the parables Jesus gave after others said he ‘receives sinners and eats with them’ to be explored. **The question is not about what Jesus said, but about what others said of him. Did they say it invidiously, with ill will, and being offended? If so, why?**
***I wanted to avoided the general tag of ‘sin’*** and use ‘sinners’ and ‘sinless’, plus ‘salvation’, all of which are listed as possible tags. Unfortunately, the sinner tag only gives, 'sinners-prayer' which is ***not*** what I'm after. It only gives 'sin' which is ***not*** the same as sinlessness. It only gives 'assurance of salvation', **which is *not* what I'm after**. *The tags will turn out to be worse than useless if people just look at them and launch into that.*
This is a topic about sinners compared with those who view themselves as sinless, and all with regard to salvation. I address this to those in the Reformed, Protestant, Evangelical category, noting that some may not identify themselves with any particular denomination, but be evangelical Protestants nevertheless.
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