How do I become a Saddhanussari or Dhammanussari and know if I have attained it?
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How do I become a Saddhanussari or Dhammanussari and how do I know if I have attained it?
I think that the question above is clear enough. Just to add I have read their descriptions in the Suttas but from them, the answer to these questions are still unclear. He describes them as such:
MN 70
> And what person is a **follower of the teachings** (**dhammanussari**)? It’s a person who
> doesn’t have direct meditative experience of the peaceful liberations
> that are formless, transcending form. Nevertheless, having seen with
> wisdom, some of their defilements have come to an end. And they accept
> the teachings proclaimed by the Realized One after considering them
> with a degree of wisdom. And they have the following qualities: the
> faculties of faith, energy, mindfulness, immersion, and wisdom. This
> person is called a follower of the teachings. I say that this
> mendicant also still has work to do with diligence. Why is that?
> Thinking: ‘Hopefully this venerable will frequent appropriate
> lodgings, associate with good friends, and control their faculties.
> Then they might realize the supreme culmination of the spiritual path
> in this very life, and live having achieved with their own insight the
> goal for which gentlemen rightly go forth from the lay life to
> homelessness.’ Seeing this fruit of diligence for this mendicant, I
> say that they still have work to do with diligence.
>
>And what person is
> a **follower by faith** (**saddhanussari**)? It’s a person who doesn’t have direct meditative
> experience of the peaceful liberations that are formless, transcending
> form. Nevertheless, having seen with wisdom, some of their defilements
> have come to an end. And they have a degree of faith and love for the
> Realized One. And they have the following qualities: the faculties of
> faith, energy, mindfulness, immersion, and wisdom. This person is
> called a follower by faith. I say that this mendicant also still has
> work to do with diligence. Why is that? Thinking: ‘Hopefully this
> venerable will frequent appropriate lodgings, associate with good
> friends, and control their faculties. Then they might realize the
> supreme culmination of the spiritual path in this very life, and live
> having achieved with their own insight the goal for which gentlemen
> rightly go forth from the lay life to homelessness.’ Seeing this fruit
> of diligence for this mendicant, I say that they still have work to do
> with diligence.
How does one 'accept the teachings proclaimed by the Realized One after considering them with a degree of wisdom.'? Or 'have a degree of faith and love for the Realized One'? And how does one know that one has fulfilled this?
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