AN 8.30 Great thoughts, thoughts of great man, thing-able, (de-)touch-able for everyone? (thinking in first jhāna)

Coming from [here, analysis of AN 8.30](https://notesonthedhamma.blogspot.com/2021/10/an-830-maybe-try-having-faith-in-buddha.html) . > Good, Anuruddha, very good. It’s good that you think these thoughts of a great person: Does good householder think that certain (all) people are capable to think such thoughts? So how then could certain delight in such thoughts? What then would one, seeing this, start to think for himself instead to try to make a dead dog walk? In what would he delight and sacrifices into himself? What does good householder here desire to think? Are thought of a great man only think-able for great or by everyone? What happens if a ordinary starts to give them public thoughts? And in the case thinking not possible for everybody here and now, what would be the prerequisite to get the point? What's the matter with proper attention and good association here? Could that be a way out?