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Abhidhamma vs Sutta: Did the Buddha teach about the birth of things?

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The Abhidhamma acknowledges the Suttas define 'birth' ('jati') as follows: >1. The Section Derived from the Discourses > > 1.11. Definition of Birth PTS cs 235 Herein, what is ‘with continuation as condition: birth?’ > > For the various **beings (sattanam)** in the various **classes of beings (sattanikaye)** (there is) > birth, being born, appearing, arising, turning up, the manifestation > of the constituents (of mind and bodily form), the acquisition of the > sense spheres. > >Tattha katamā bhavapaccayā jāti? 17.2Yā tesaṁ tesaṁ sattānaṁ tamhi tamhi sattanikāye jāti sañjāti okkanti abhinibbatti, khandhānaṁ pātubhāvo, āyatanānaṁ paṭilābho— 17.3ayaṁ vuccati “bhavapaccayā jāti”. > > https://suttacentral.net/vb6/en/anandajoti#pts-cs235 However, the Abhidhamma says it defines 'birth' ('jati') as follows: >2. The Section Derived from the Abstract Teaching > > Herein, what is ‘with continuation as condition: birth?’ > > That which for various **things** (**dhammam**) is birth, being born, return, > turning up, manifestation: this is said to be ‘with continuation as > condition: birth’. > >Tattha katamā bhavapaccayā jāti? Yā tesaṁ tesaṁ dhammānaṁ jāti sañjāti nibbatti abhinibbatti pātubhāvo— ayaṁ vuccati “bhavapaccayā jāti” > > https://suttacentral.net/vb6/en/anandajoti#pts-cs281 Are there any Suttas referring to the "jati" of "things" rather than the "jati" of "beings" in relation to dependent origination?
Asked by Paraloka Dhamma Dhatu (47819 rep)
Jul 21, 2021, 11:17 AM
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