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Abhidhamma cross-referenced with Sutta: Can nama arise without rupa? Is nama four aggregates?

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Abhidhamma appears to say nama can arise without rupa in dependent origination, as follows: > PTS cs 243 With ignorance as condition there is a (volitional) > process, with a (volitional) process as condition: consciousness, with > consciousness as condition: **mind (nama)**, with mind as condition: the sixth > sense sphere, with the sixth sense sphere as condition: contact, with > contact as condition: feeling, with feeling as condition: craving, > with craving as condition: attachment, with attachment as condition: > continuation, with continuation as condition: birth, with birth as > condition: ageing, death, and so there is an origination of this whole > mass of suffering. > >https://suttacentral.net/vb6/en/anandajoti#pts-cs243 The Abidhamma also appears to say nama is the four mental aggregates as follows: > Herein, what is ‘mind?’ (nama) > > Except for contact, (it is) the feeling constituent, the perception > constituent, the (volitional) processes constituent, the consciousness > constituent: this is said to be ‘mind’. > > https://suttacentral.net/vb6/en/anandajoti#pts-cs251 Are there any Suttas supporting the above ideas?
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Jul 21, 2021, 11:08 AM
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