How can we use the triple round model to understand dependent origination?
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In the Visuddhimagga (but not in the suttas) and possibly other commentaries, we can find the triple round model, which can be used to explain dependent origination (*paticcasamuppada*) .
The first round is called the round of defilement (*kilesa-vaṭṭa*) which includes ignorance (*avijjā*), craving (*tanha*) and clinging (*upādāna*).
The second round is called the round of action (*kamma-vaṭṭa*) which includes mental formations (*saṅkhāra*) and becoming (*bhava*).
The third round is called the round of results (*vipāka-vaṭṭa*) which includes consciousness (*viññāṇa*), name-form (*nāmarūpa*), sixfold sense base (*saḷāyatana*), contact (*phassa*) and feeling (*vedanā*). Sometimes, it also includes birth (*jāti*), death and the rest of suffering (*jarāmaraṇa*).
The meaning of *vaṭṭa* according to wisdomlib is:
> Vaṭṭa, 1 (adj. -nt.) (pp. of vṛt, Sk. vṛtta in meaning of “round” as
> well as “happened, become” etc. The two meanings have become
> differentiated in Pāli: vaṭṭa is not found in meaning of “happened. ”
> All three Pāli meanings are specialized, just as the pres. vaṭṭati is
> specialized in meaning “behoves”) 1. round, circular; (nt.) circle
> PvA. 185 (āyata+); KhA 50 (°nāli). See cpd. °aṅguli.—2. (fig.)
> “rolling on, ” the “round” of existences, cycle of transmigrations,
> saṃsāra, evolution (=involution) (as forward or ascending circle of
> existences, without implying a teleological idea, in contrast to
> vivaṭṭa “rolling back” or devolution, i.e. a new (descending) cycle of
> existence in a new aeon with inverted (vi-) motion, so to speak)
Question 1: How can we use the triple round model to understand dependent origination, **especially within this lifetime**? What is the correct interpretation of the triple round model?
Question 2: How can we understand the link from the triple round to the Wheel of Becoming (*bhavachakra*)? (statement below from here ):
> So this Wheel of Becoming, having a triple round with these three
> rounds, should be understood to spin, revolving again and
> again, forever, for the conditions are not cut off as long as the
> round of defilements is not cut off.
Question 3: Is it true that ignorance is always the starting point to get the perpetual wheel-turning started?
Perspectives from different traditions are welcomed.
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