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Does nothing transmigrate?

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MN38 is a direct confontration between Buddha and the venerable Sati: > Then the Blessed One addressed a certain monk: “Monk, go and summon > Sāti Bhikkhu with my words: ‘Venerable Sāti, the Teacher summons > you.’” “Yes, Bhante,” that monk replied the Blessed One. He approached > Sāti Bhikkhu and said to him, “Venerable Sāti, the Teacher summons > you.” “Yes, Venerable,” Sāti Bhikkhu replied to that monk, and > approached the Blessed One. After approaching and venerating the > Blessed One, he sat to one side. When Sāti Bhikkhu was seated to one > side, the Blessed One said to him, “Sāti, is it true that this kind of > harmful perspective has arisen in you: ‘As I understand… and nothing > else’?” “Bhante, it is in this way that I understand the Dhamma taught > by the Blessed One: It is this very consciousness which wanders in > Saṁsāra, and nothing else.” “Sāti, what is that consciousness?” > “Bhante, it is what speaks and feels; it is what experiences in > various ways the results of good and bad actions.” “Foolish man3, for > whom do you recall the Dhamma having been taught by me in that way? > Foolish man, haven‘t I spoken of consciousness in many ways as > conditionally arisen, and that consciousness does not exist apart from > its cause? Foolish man, you misrepresent me using your own wrongly > held opinion. You damage yourself4 and accumulate much demerit. > Foolish man, this will lead to your long-term detriment and > suffering.” Why does Buddha suggest the view of consciousness transmigrating across lifetimes is a view that causes suffering? The fact that he says consciousness is conditional arising, how does holding the transmigrating view affect the liberating view? Since Buddha also taught > ‘This [consciousness] is not mine, I am not this, this is not my > self.’ na meso attā’ti evametaṁ yathābhūtaṁ sammappaññāya daṭṭhabbaṁ." So if we combine those two views ie. the above and Sati's view, are we in trouble for suffering? In addition, does Timsa sutta contradict the lecture to Sati? He says: > The Blessed One said, "From an inconceivable beginning comes > transmigration. A beginning point is not evident, though beings > hindered by ignorance and fettered by craving are transmigrating & > wandering on. What do you think, monks? Which is greater, the blood > you have shed from having your heads cut off while transmigrating & > wandering this long, long time, or the water in the four great > oceans?" >
Asked by āḷasu bhikhārī (2033 rep)
Mar 3, 2026, 12:20 PM
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