How do Buddhists that think of karma figuratively do so about rebirth?

How do Buddhists that think of karma figuratively -- non literal -- not what is ordinarily meant -- do so about rebirth? They surely cannot believe rebirth is literal, so what exactly is it? An answer from any perspective would be most welcome. ---------- > Among these Buddhists, however, this has led to the rejection not of > non-self but of rebirth. (Historically this response was not unknown > among East Asian Buddhists, and it is not rare among Western Buddhists > today.) The evidence that the Buddha himself accepted rebirth and > karma seems quite strong, however... this sort of ‘noble lie’ justification for the Buddha teaching a doctrine he does not accept fails in the face of the evidence that he also **taught** it to quite advanced monastics Emphasis added https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/buddha/#KarReb So I'm not asking what the Buddha thought - we don't actually know - or any specific historical Buddhists. I am just seeking clarity on how ***you*** think of rebirth without literal karma^ , pretty uninterested in its psychological / self justification aspect, thanks. ^ > a causal relationship between action (karma) and ‘fruit’ (phala), the > latter being an experience of pleasure, pain or indifference for the > agent of the action